[PGT] Senators score 4 unanswered goals. Flames lose 6-4.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by AC

Christ.

guess I didn't know what the J was either.

[AC]

Here's Galaxy91122's capture of the JFC and possibly the cause of Johnny's outrage:
https://gfycat.com/UltimateEnviousEasternnewt

[smiggy77]

I heard on the radio that some idiot threw his jersey on the ice. Is that true? Who the friggin hell does that when we been out of a playoff spot for this long? I hate idiots who ruin our name as flames fans.

[Jbo]

Originally Posted by smiggy77

I heard on the radio that some idiot threw his jersey on the ice. Is that true? Who the friggin hell does that when we been out of a playoff spot for this long? I hate idiots who ruin our name as flames fans.

It was a Sens fan

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by smiggy77

I heard on the radio that some idiot threw his jersey on the ice. Is that true? Who the friggin hell does that when we been out of a playoff spot for this long? I hate idiots who ruin our name as flames fans.

Mentioned in game thread: was a Sens fan, not a Flames fan, and he was kicked out of the Dome for doing it.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Dion

IIRC it was ruled he was out of his crease and fair game.

I know what the ruling was but I think it was a load of horse####. Not all of him was outside the crease when Ryan made contact.

[smiggy77]

Originally Posted by Jbo

It was a Sens fan

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

Mentioned in game thread: was a Sens fan, not a Flames fan, and he was kicked out of the Dome for doing it.

Thanks! I almost lost it when I heard that lol

[cam_wmh]

I want this team to sign Lucic. No more liberties on Gaudreau et all.

[OzSome]

Originally Posted by Machiavelli

I may have to stop watching this season... I can't cheer for "Matthews points," I can't cheer for other crappy teams to win so the Flames sink deeper into the basement, and I can't bear to continue witnessing all the dead weight on this team.

I am with you on the Matthews points part. I just cannot cheer for the Flames to lose so they will get a chance to win the Austin Matthews sweepstakes.

We are lacking a secondary scoring in this team. We cannot rely on Monahan and Gaudreau to score all the time or rely on defensemen like Brody, Gio or Hamilton to do the scoring. Not happy with Jones and even Ferland who's getting the minutes and not producing. I feel for Bennett having to play with wingers who cannot produce or even help him scores.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by OzSome

I am with you on the Matthews points part. I just cannot cheer for the Flames to lose so they will get a chance to win the Austin Matthews sweepstakes.

We are lacking a secondary scoring in this team. We cannot rely on Monahan and Gaudreau to score all the time or rely on defensemen like Brody, Gio or Hamilton to do the scoring. Not happy with Jones and even Ferland who's getting the minutes and not producing. I feel for Bennett having to play with wingers who cannot produce or even help him scores.

Here are the Flames' third and fourth line forwards by point per 60 minutes

Joe Colborne: 1.72
David Jones: 1.22
Markus Granlund: 1.16 (gone)
Michael Ferland: 1.09
Josh Jooris: 1.02
Matt Stajan: 0.88
Mason Raymond: 0.84
Brandon Bolig: 0.64
Lance Bouma: 0.45

Now here's Chicago's:

Dale Weise: 1.94 (new)
Teuvo Teravainen: 1.67
Tomas Fleischmann: 1.35 (new)
Dennis Rasmussen: 1.28
Richard Panik: 1.28
Andrew Desjardins: 0.68
Bryan Bickell: 0.54
Marcus Kruger: 0.14

It seems that one of the main differences in terms of forward production is that the third liner on Chicago have much more consistent production. Their third line forwards are 30 point guys, while ours are 10 point guys.

Luckily, if Treliving is smart with contracts, I think this could be relatively easy to solve over time.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Dion

IIRC it was ruled he was out of his crease and fair game.

It wasn't because he wws out of his crease.

The rule is regardless of if a goalie was in his crease or not who established postion on the ice first.

Ortio was deemed to make contact with Ryan first. Had he been oustide the paint and not reached out with his blocker hand first the call would have been interference . The referees decided Ortio initiated first contact.


It was not the right call regardless as they can not take into account he was reaching with the blocker for a shot that was blocked.

Had the shot not been blocked and Ortio was still reaching out with the Blocker in the same fashion and made contact with Ryan it would more then likely Ryan gets called for Interference or they just wave off the goal.


It was a questioanble call but under the current rules the right call from the book but not from a logical stand point.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

I want this team to sign Lucic. No more liberties on Gaudreau et all.

Re sign Trevor Gilles

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

I think that was near the end of the game where a Sens d man decided to send Johnnys own stick into his face when thw puck was no where near them.


Je thought that should have been an interference call.

Originally Posted by AC

Here's Galaxy91122's capture of the JFC and possibly the cause of Johnny's outrage:
https://gfycat.com/UltimateEnviousEasternnewt

Nailed it

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Here are the Flames' third and fourth line forwards by point per 60 minutes

Joe Colborne: 1.72 $1.275M
David Jones: 1.22 $4M
Markus Granlund: 1.16 (gone)
Michael Ferland: 1.09 $.825M
Josh Jooris: 1.02 $.975M
Matt Stajan: 0.88 $3.125M
Mason Raymond: 0.84 $3.15M
Brandon Bolig: 0.64 $1.25M
Lance Bouma: 0.45 $2.2M

Now here's Chicago's:

Dale Weise: 1.94 (new)
Teuvo Teravainen: 1.67 $.895M
Tomas Fleischmann: 1.35 (new)
Dennis Rasmussen: 1.28 $.575M
Richard Panik: 1.28 $.975M
Andrew Desjardins: 0.68 $.8M
Bryan Bickell: 0.54 $3.05M
Marcus Kruger: 0.14 $1.5M

It seems that one of the main differences in terms of forward production is that the third liner on Chicago have much more consistent production. Their third line forwards are 30 point guys, while ours are 10 point guys.

Luckily, if Treliving is smart with contracts, I think this could be relatively easy to solve over time.

Added cap hits to those players in your posts who are not just rentals.
Flames average $2.1M
Chicago average $1.3M

It adds up. If the Flames paid less for bottom end players they could afford to go after another top-end player.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Played very well for the most part? You mean two good games?

He's never been great at any level, but he's promising? I'm sorry, I don't follow.

He had an awful, awful game. There's as many of these as there are good games

Hc TPS says Hi

Finnish wiki.

Ortio is TPS increased, but played in the period 2007-2008 TuTossa . He won TuTossa A young I Division Championship in Finland in 2008 and TPS A-Junior Championship silver in 2009.

English wiki.

He appeared in 26 games in Finland's junior league in 2008–09 and recorded an 18–8 record with a 2.63 goals against average (GAA).[1] He made his first appearance with the Finnish national team, as he recorded three wins and one shutout to help the under-18 team win the bronze medal at the 2009 IIHF World U18 Championships.

You know who else struggled as a 3rd string goalie at 24 /25 in the Nhl but also led Hc TPS junior team to a finish chamionship and a silver as well when he was young .......Mikka Kippersuaff.

Im not saying that Ortio is the next Kipper but that are following almost exact paths in their careers. It would be terrible if the Flames made the same mistake San Jose did with out giving him a fair shake.

[AC]

Those numbers also suggest Colborne is indeed quite good value and not someone we should be giving up 'just because' at this stage. He's a solid 3rd liner and it would be difficult to replace his production at his pricetag.

[Dion]

[Machiavelli]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I'm with you all the way except for the GTFO statement. This game means nothing in the big picture and come June nobody is going to look back at these late season losses and wish they were wins. I want them to be worse this season to be much better in future seasons.

The problem is, there is no guarantee that worse now = better later

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Man, I went to bed after the 2nd when it was 4-2 for Calgary.



To quote Johnny...JFC.

[YYC in LAX]

Get Frederik Andersen