02-11-2016, 10:16 AM
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#141
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by MarkGio
5000 thousand dollars is a pretty hefty fine for 1 minute of losing some composure
I wish the police could issue a 5000 thousand dollar fine for every uttering threat charge. That would likely cease all threats in society.
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I'm pretty sure you can go to jail for threatening to kill someone.
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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
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How can the NHL not look at this and hang their heads in shame?
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02-11-2016, 10:21 AM
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#142
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
Sometimes these fines are so laughable. What's $5,000 to an NHLer? Literally nothing.
There is probably a good handful of CPers to whom $5000 is also nothing.
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It is literally the maximum a player can be fined, actually. Fines are meant to be a slap on the wrist. It's the suspensions that carry the heavy financial penalties.
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02-11-2016, 10:25 AM
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#143
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Voted for Kodos
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I'm fine with the fine here.
It was a borderline gesture at best.
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02-11-2016, 10:31 AM
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#144
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed
I'm fine with the fine here.
It was a borderline gesture at best.
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What does this even mean?
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02-11-2016, 10:33 AM
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#145
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Self-Retired
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Lol, borderline gesture?
In normal society that's called "Uttering Death Threats" which is a criminal offence, no?
Being taped on national TV, making a throat slashing gesture multiple times, taking his time to be sure said target is looking at him and then continues to do it once he has his attention and yelling, not just mouthing the words "you're fu**ing dead!".. Is not borderline.
The NHL is a joke.
Can't wait for reports of kids who view Kadri as their role model/hero, start doing this crap after a hit in their house games. Why not, Kadri does it..
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02-11-2016, 10:37 AM
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#146
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by IgiTang
Lol, borderline gesture?
In normal society that's called "Uttering Death Threats" which is a criminal offence, no?
Being taped on national TV, making a throat slashing gesture multiple times, taking his time to be sure said target is looking at him and then continues to do it once he has his attention and yelling, not just mouthing the words "you're fu**ing dead!".. Is not borderline.
The NHL is a joke.
Can't wait for reports of kids who view Kadri as their role model/hero, start doing this crap after a hit in their house games. Why not, Kadri does it..
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Oh man
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02-11-2016, 10:42 AM
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#147
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by killer_carlson
Kadri just claimed that he was "In and out of it" because of the hit.
Later in the interview comes out with more that he was frustrated and really mad (so a deviation from the "in and out of it" bit)
interview clip on 960
Claiming that Giordano's hit should be reviewed. Feels his head took the brunt of the hit.
Someone should team him how North South works
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I thought he owned up to it and explained it pretty well when he was interviewed - bottom line not that big of a deal...
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02-11-2016, 10:44 AM
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#148
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by MattyC
I'm pretty sure you can go to jail for threatening to kill someone.
How can the NHL not look at this and hang their heads in shame?
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Really ... you think he was threatening to kill Gio...? Have you played sports - it's not acceptable but it's a VERY long way from what your implying...
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02-11-2016, 10:46 AM
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#149
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Cranbrook
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Honestly, the pure pleasure I got watching him spend the rest of the game chasing down Gio and failing miserably at hitting him was worth seeing him not suspended. The trash talk he is going to receive for that is punishment enough.
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02-11-2016, 11:15 AM
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#150
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Lifetime Suspension
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Some of your reactions are so over the top. It's a hockey game. It's not a "death threat" the way some of you are painting it. Anyone who has played contact sport has probably said "oh buddy you're done/you're dead/I'm gonna kill you" or heard someone say Something along those lines at some point . If you've said it, it was implied that you won't actually attempt to murder someone, but just get them back/ hit them. If someone else said that to you, were you leaving the game fearing someone might try to take your life or were you just laughing and probably smiled and said "bring it on"? If this happened in a buffalo Florida game nobody would give a damn. Stop being so dramatic because it involved gio. Hell, gio didn't even care
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02-11-2016, 11:20 AM
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#151
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ontario
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Fined 0.1219512195% of his salary this year. That'll teach him!
The equivalent, if you made $60,000 annually... would be receiving a $73.17 fine. Inconvenient and maybe a bummer on your weekend... but you'll consider yourself pretty lucky.
Edit: % not shown correctly.
Last edited by Split98; 02-11-2016 at 12:42 PM.
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02-11-2016, 11:22 AM
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#152
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Nostradamus
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: London Ont.
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I'm shocked nobody (unless I missed it) has got on their soap box about this being a kid of middle eastern decent doing a throat cutting gesture. It is a strange, strange world where some things are immediately racial and others aren't.
For the record, it has nothing to do with his background whatsoever, I'm just surprised it wasn't brought up that I have seen.
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02-11-2016, 11:26 AM
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#153
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by H2SO4(aq)
Some of your reactions are so over the top. It's a hockey game. It's not a "death threat" the way some of you are painting it. Anyone who has played contact sport has probably said "oh buddy you're done/you're dead/I'm gonna kill you" or heard someone say Something along those lines at some point . If you've said it, it was implied that you won't actually attempt to murder someone, but just get them back/ hit them. If someone else said that to you, were you leaving the game fearing someone might try to take your life or were you just laughing and probably smiled and said "bring it on"? If this happened in a buffalo Florida game nobody would give a damn. Stop being so dramatic because it involved gio. Hell, gio didn't even care
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You've also probably heard guys call opposing players fags many times from peewee to the pro ranks. It's a superficial insult just like Kardi's throat slash, but it's something that is no longer acceptable like it once was. Personally, if someone called me a fag while playing sports, it wouldn't bother me in the least, just like the throat slash didn't bug Gio. Gio did mention it was stupid though and it has no place, and he's right.
If the NHL desires to remove these things from the sport, a 1-game suspension is in order. If they don't really care that much, then it's a $5k fine.
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02-11-2016, 11:33 AM
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#154
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zukes
I'm shocked nobody (unless I missed it) has got on their soap box about this being a kid of middle eastern decent doing a throat cutting gesture. It is a strange, strange world where some things are immediately racial and others aren't.
For the record, it has nothing to do with his background whatsoever, I'm just surprised it wasn't brought up that I have seen.
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He's a decent Middle Easterner, I guess. But I'm pretty glad no one here has cared to make the connection.
Twitter however was all over it.
Robert Spencer @jihadwatchRS
Video: Muslim NHL player threatens to slit the throat of opposing player http://wp.me/p4hgqZ-mhR
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02-11-2016, 11:38 AM
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#155
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Split98
He's a decent Middle Easterner, I guess. But I'm pretty glad no one here has cared to make the connection.
Twitter however was all over it.
Robert Spencer @jihadwatchRS
Video: Muslim NHL player threatens to slit the throat of opposing player http://wp.me/p4hgqZ-mhR
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I actually loled. Jihad Watch? Yes, Kadri is covertly planning to infiltrate the NHL and murder non believers. Gio better renounce his faith quickly and accept allah or risk the wrath of Kadri's fanaticism.
Some people, I tell ya.
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02-11-2016, 11:38 AM
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#156
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Voted for Kodos
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Originally Posted by Split98
Fined 0.001219512195% of his salary this year. That'll teach him!
The equivalent, if you made $60,000 annually... would be receiving a $73.17 fine. Inconvenient and maybe a bummer on your weekend... but you'll consider yourself pretty lucky.
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You'll want to remove the two zeroes after the decimal point. His fine wasn't $50.
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02-11-2016, 11:40 AM
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#157
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Not cheering for losses
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Threatened to kill Gio. Hilariously attempted to kill him (twice) and failed miserably. $5000 fine.
Warning! Suspect math ahead: $4.1M salary = $50,000/game = $2778/minute played (18 minutes average TOI).
So he has to play 1 minute and 45 seconds to pay off this fine... or 2-3 shifts. That'll teach him!
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02-11-2016, 11:41 AM
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#158
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Nostradamus
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: London Ont.
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Originally Posted by Split98
He's a decent Middle Easterner, I guess. But I'm pretty glad no one here has cared to make the connection.
Twitter however was all over it.
Robert Spencer @jihadwatchRS
Video: Muslim NHL player threatens to slit the throat of opposing player http://wp.me/p4hgqZ-mhR
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That twitter reply is what I was expecting. I am also glad people didn't go that way. Sadly, I fully expected it.
I'm also refusing to correct my spelling of descent, I had a good laugh at my mistake when I read the bolded part.
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02-11-2016, 11:45 AM
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#159
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MattyC
I'm pretty sure you can go to jail for threatening to kill someone.
How can the NHL not look at this and hang their heads in shame?
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The only way you really go to jail for uttering death threats is if you have done something previously.
If its your first offence, my guess would be somethings along the lines of a fine and probation with no criminal record.
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02-11-2016, 11:45 AM
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#160
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Franchise Player
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The fact that the NHL cannot administer consistent punishment for an act that is displayed repeatedly and identically, is truly astounding.
Here's the act. Here's the punishment.
Try it - it really ins't that hard.
(I don't care what the punishment is: suspension, fine, nothing. Just pick one and stick with it!)
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