Hathaway, Sieloff, Wotherspoon, Nakladal, Morrison to Stockton. UPD: Shore clears - Page 8 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Caged Great · 10-02-2015, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Have Kulak and Culkin ever been in the same room at the same time?

I personally feel like they are one person.

It's actually funny because they are very different people off the ice. Culkin is more of an easy going joker type, where Kulak is somewhat reserved and serious.

Roof-Daddy · 10-02-2015, 03:31 PM

Good for Kulak.

I've been high on him and Culkin since the 2012 draft. Both have decent size, and both are great skaters with smarts as well. If Culkin could stay healthy I'm sure he'd be right in there with Brett as we speak.

I just love mobile two way D-men, and Hartley sure knows how to use them well.

dammage79 · 10-02-2015, 03:37 PM

Yup, congrats to Kulak for making this close to a roster spot. He's certainly earned it.

I didn't think Wotherspoon was bad or terrible, he just didn't stand out like Wilson or Kulak have. Hopefully this lights a fire under his butt. He has all the tools to be a really good D man in the NHL. Perhaps it is confidence or the lack thereof.

We're not decision makers but I will be pretty disappointed if Granlund doesn't lock up a spot. Contract stuff aside, he's earned a full time gig IMO. I am certain they'll make trades happen if need be. I just hope they feel as strongly about Granlunds camp as I do. Because they will make room for him if that is the case.

Shore was alright in camp. He does a lot of right things consistently, but like Wotherspoon, he just didn't do enough to jump out in front of the pack. He'll get claimed. If not, good for team depth.

Big time bummer about Colborne, like one reporter said though, this will give his surgically repaired wrist more time to properly heal up.

Ring of Fire · 10-02-2015, 03:42 PM

I liked the Wotherspoon pick and 2011 and he has had good progression, but it seems he is at a crossroads in his development. He is a good skater and puck mover, but not outstanding in any category, nor has he shown the offensive potential to be a top-4 puck moving defenceman this training camp. I would think the Flames see Wotherspoon more as a bottom pairing defenceman who needs to add some physicality to his game while Wotherspoon may see himself as having higher potential. I hope has has a good year of development and takes Hartley's challenge to heart.

devo22 · 10-02-2015, 04:37 PM

Hope Shore clears, but wouldn't surprise if someone claims him. Either way, it was worth the gamble from the Flames' perspective.

Super excited for Kulak, what a step up from him.

Fire · 10-02-2015, 05:01 PM

Unfortunately I think the Flames are probably working out a contract with Wilson. Otherwise he would probably be cut by now.

devo22 · 10-02-2015, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire

Unfortunately I think the Flames are probably working out a contract with Wilson. Otherwise he would probably be cut by now.

I found Sportaks tweet interesting where he suggested claiming Diaz off waivers instead of signing Wilson. Probably not going to happen, but have to say I'd prefer that scenario.

MBates · 10-02-2015, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry David

Quote from Jermain Franklin adds more:

@TSNJFranklin: Hartley's message to Wotherspoon "you need to be a little tougher on yourself... more demanding, you let those 2 guys step in front of you"

Safe to say he's implying Kulak and Wilson as the 2 guys who stepped in front of him.

He specifically mentioned Wotherspoon finishing behind Kulak and Wilson earlier in the interview.

saillias · 10-02-2015, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire

Unfortunately I think the Flames are probably working out a contract with Wilson. Otherwise he would probably be cut by now.

I had the same thought, if you're going to let him go it should've happened last weekend or sometime the past week. If you release a PTO when preseason is pretty much over? You're sort of screwing the guy.

MBates · 10-02-2015, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saillias

I had the same thought, if you're going to let him go it should've happened last weekend or sometime the past week. If you release a PTO when preseason is pretty much over? You're sort of screwing the guy.

Hartley literally said the last spot is down to two guys...Kulak and Wilson...there's not much mystery...

Enoch Root · 10-02-2015, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saillias

I had the same thought, if you're going to let him go it should've happened last weekend or sometime the past week. If you release a PTO when preseason is pretty much over? You're sort of screwing the guy.

No you're not, you're essentially giving him a continued try-out for all 30 teams.

saillias · 10-02-2015, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MBates

Hartley literally said the last spot is down to two guys...Kulak and Wilson...there's not much mystery...

Not sure what your point is but overusing ellipses is always fun.

getbak · 10-02-2015, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by devo22

I found Sportaks tweet interesting where he suggested claiming Diaz off waivers instead of signing Wilson. Probably not going to happen, but have to say I'd prefer that scenario.

The problem with that is, if you claim Diaz, you have to keep him in Calgary, or likely lose him back to the Rangers if you try to send him down. Wilson would likely clear waivers if need be.

Enoch Root · 10-02-2015, 05:31 PM

My point is that any team can sign him. And as long as the Flames continue to put him out there, he continues to have the chance to impress someone.

That is the furthest thing from screwing him.

MBates · 10-02-2015, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saillias

Not sure what your point is but overusing ellipses is always fun.

...everyone speculating...about...what was happening...with the final defence...spot...when the coach said...exactly...what was happening...seemed strange...to...me...that...was my point...

...

Plus...needed to...have some...ellipses fun...

...

dammage79 · 10-02-2015, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MBates

...everyone speculating...about...what was happening...with the final defence...spot...when the coach said...exactly...what was happening...seemed strange...to...me...that...was my point...

...

Plus...needed to...have some...ellipses fun...

...

Just to finish this ellipses joke:

"I've..... GOT TO... MISTER!!"

Bandwagon In Flames · 10-02-2015, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by getbak

The problem with that is, if you claim Diaz, you have to keep him in Calgary, or likely lose him back to the Rangers if you try to send him down. Wilson would likely clear waivers if need be.

So because Diaz is the better player and won't clear waivers, we should sign Wilson? Not sure they'd claim him anyways, as I'm assuming they put him on waivers for a reason. If they claim him then they're in the exact same position.

If we are in fact planning to sign Wilson then I would rather have Diaz instead. He's familiar with the team and the system. We already spent a full season teaching him how to play defense within the Flames system so I think it makes more sense.

Red Menace · 10-02-2015, 07:53 PM

I think part of the thinking was to keep 2 lefty D around.
With 3 healthy Righties around there was no room for Nakladal to play.
Now Kulak and presumably Wilson can swap in with each other for the #6 spot along side Engelland.
I guess there is still a chance they go with just 6 D in order to keep 3 Goalies around.

polak · 10-02-2015, 09:34 PM

Another vote for diaz.

OzSome · 10-02-2015, 11:17 PM

People here are so high on Drew Shore. I've only seen him play well in one game late last season and that's it. He never impress me that is why I am not surprise of this move. Will someone claim him? I am guessing he will pass the waivers and play in Stockton. He hasn't shown anything that will get interest from the other team. I don't think it is big lost. I will rather see Granlund play for Calgary rather than Shore.