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Old 09-22-2015, 02:14 AM   #141
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Some random points:


- Really odd seeing several deflated posters on the first couple pages of this thread. The ONLY point of these games is player evaluation. The score, or who we played has absolutely zero significance/relevance

- That point leads into the typicalness of Oiler fans (a few on this forum and others) taking any kind of sense of accomplishment from pre-season games. They do the same thing every year and September / October are their only months, so let them enjoy themselves. We all know (and so do they) that they'll be gone in about sixty days


- Thought Gaudreau and Gio looked sensational. A lot of rust all the way around but those two stuck out

- Granlund and Augistino looked really good and hungry in the game in Edmonton

- Really liked Hamilton's skating and size and think he's going to make our d-core that much more lethal. While he was fighting the puck in spots I really liked his confidence at jumping into the play. I think he's going to run with that

- Frolik lived up to being a guy who looked great in all situations

- Even though Ferland said in a recent interview he realized he can't try and kill everyone all the time like he did in the playoffs... it still looked like he was trying to kill everyone all the time (awesome!)

- Kylington and Anderson looked amazing for first year players. The chance that they could develop into mainstays just makes our defensive pool look that much better

- As has been touched on, the Flames A/V staff should be embarrassed. There's no excuse for a pro sports team to be that inept in 2015 as far as streaming technologies go. I plan on sending them a FAX tomorrow, outlining how outdated their effort was last night. In case it doesn't come through, I'll point out that's why I'm faxing. Because with how poor their technology was last night, I'm unsure if they have yet upgraded their systems to email / Windows 2000. I encourage anyone else reading this with a fax machine available to them to do the same tomorrow. Maybe it will strike a cord.

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Old 09-22-2015, 02:15 AM   #142
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Are there any replays of Hathaway's hit on Hall?
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Old 09-22-2015, 03:44 AM   #144
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Anders Nilsson looks like he's going to be the guy who takes the #2 spot in the Oilers net. Looked really really strong in his share or the game. Had the kind of efficient lateral movement and poise that all really good goalies possess.

Nurse is going to be good for them. Which sucks. But whatever, they cant suck forever can they?

Ortio looked strong, got hung out to dry on that 2 on 1 but his position and coverage were spot on IMO. Hiller looked strong even though that one goal came on the post he covers weakest. Ramo lett a bad one in but calmed down and didn't flop as much as I was expecting to see so early in the preseason.

Kylinton, Andersson, Wilson stood out in a very good way for the road squad tonight. Super impressed with all three. Nakladal was defensively noticeable tonight for the home team.

Poirier was not good. Needs to pick it up.

Gio, Monahan, Gaudreau, Brodie, Wideman, Russell and Hudler just do not look like they skipped a beat. They are the bar that is set. Bennett was gritty tonight, skill wasn't prominent so much tonight, not a critique just an observation.
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Old 09-22-2015, 04:26 AM   #145
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In his first pre-season game, Kylington stood out on the Flames blueline. The Swede rung a hard shot off the post early on, netted Calgary's first goal of the night, and looked poised in his own zone.
"I felt pretty good. I was a bit nervous at the beginning but when the game started I was pretty calm and it was fun to play out there," Kylington said of his first taste of NHL action. "I think I played easy in our own end, I didn’t play that fancy I just played easy. I kept the pucks out and blocked some shots. I think I did a decent defensive job and I’m pretty proud of that.
"I think I did pretty good. Hopefully it gets better and better."
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"I think he was real good," Cloutier said of Kylington. "He moved the puck well. When he plays a simple game he is very effective. When you’re young that’s what you have to do – make the easy play."
I think he'll be sticking around a while longer.

http://flames.nhl.com/gamecenter/en/recap?id=2015010007

oh yeah, nice to see Granlund showing off his quick release again. For some reason he never seemed able to get it off during the regular season.

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Old 09-22-2015, 06:42 AM   #146
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I'd rather move Granlund to wing instead of playing Raymond. Raymond is such a soft player who is easy to knock off the puck. Maybe someone in camp can impress enough to make Mason expendable.
Something that disappointed me about Raymond. In the training camp scrum on FlamesTV someone asks him if he's done anything different this off-season he says "no." The guy has become a 13th forward here and he didn't see fit to maybe work on something in the off-season, put on some mass, work on a specific skill.
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Why can't Raymond stay on his skates? I hope the Flames have the guts to send him down to Stockton if he deserves it.

What is the buy-out cap hit if they buy him out next off-season?
Unfortunately that's what I see happening for Raymond. Flames can't give him away at his salary and with next years salary cap problems, you can't afford to have $3.1 million taking up cap room for an AHL quality player.

Disappointed to hear Poirier had an invisible game. Happy to see Granlund was solid.
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Old 09-22-2015, 06:48 AM   #148
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Good to see the oilers getting the w's out of the way now. I mean can you imagine how mad MacT and Lowe would be for getting -4 Matthews points in one night!
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Hamilton with a poor attempt to keep the puck in their zone on that play creating the 3 on 1. You can see the talent, but he was really fighting the puck last night.
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Gio is unreal. The guy doesn't have a 'half assed' setting. If he's there, he's giving 110% all the time
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Everyone knows that preseason record is directly related to playoff performance. The corsi analytics are uncanny.
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Old 09-22-2015, 07:24 AM   #152
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I'd rather move Granlund to wing instead of playing Raymond. Raymond is such a soft player who is easy to knock off the puck. Maybe someone in camp can impress enough to make Mason expendable.
This guy makes Raymond expendable:



No but seriously, he was the worst player on the ice in both games. And yes I'm including ALL the Oilers players too. Raymond is hot garbage and needs to be NOT on the starting roster.
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Old 09-22-2015, 07:56 AM   #153
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Only saw the Calgary game and would echo most sentiments on Gio and Gaudreau. Frolik looked good, he's got good wheels. I noticed Shore with some great speed as well, hopefully he can overtake Raymond. Hudler looks faster than last year. Thought Nakladal was one of the best defensemen, very poised.
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Raymond is hot garbage and needs to be NOT on the starting roster.
Every time I open the Fire on Ice forum these days my eyes automatically scan the first page for a Raymond trade.
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Old 09-22-2015, 08:08 AM   #155
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Some random points:

- As has been touched on, the Flames A/V staff should be embarrassed. There's no excuse for a pro sports team to be that inept in 2015 as far as streaming technologies go. I plan on sending them a FAX tomorrow, outlining how outdated their effort was last night. In case it doesn't come through, I'll point out that's why I'm faxing. Because with how poor their technology was last night, I'm unsure if they have yet upgraded their systems to email / Windows 2000. I encourage anyone else reading this with a fax machine available to them to do the same tomorrow. Maybe it will strike a cord.
I was thinking homing pigeons might be more appropriate

http://www.freewebs.com/kjcii/homingpigeonsbycolor.htm

The homing pigeon world seems fixated on colour apparently
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Old 09-22-2015, 08:10 AM   #156
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Some random points:
- Really odd seeing several deflated posters on the first couple pages of this thread. The ONLY point of these games is player evaluation. The score, or who we played has absolutely zero significance/relevance
Agreed, good grief.

I hope we don't have a seasons worth of unrealistic expectations already set around here.

We're still building a team, and a culture. Patience is required. All I expect from this team is that the same work ethic from last season gets carried forward into this season. As long as they work hard, the success will come.

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TSN literally never talked about the game and only showed McDavid highlights. Not a single other highlight was shown it was only about McDavid. WTF.
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My observations on new(ish) players from the home game:

Hamilton - you can tell why he's so hyped up. Amazing skating for a guy of his size. HE was rusty, but it's game #1 on his new team... He is going be a good defeseman right away, but in 1 - 3 years he is going to be incredible.

Shore - I put Shore as one of my "busts" for this year, but he was the hardest skating player on the Flames last night. He won a lot of battles and created some opportunities. It's good to see how hungry he is to make the team.

Nakladal - I was impressed considering it's his first NHL-type game. He is no more than a #5/6, but he may become an effective one. I'm excited to see how his game develops each game.

Poirier - I thought he was the worst guy out there. I hate to say it but I've never been impressed by any of his games at the NHL level. He plays smaller than he is, and he seems so anxious out there.

Smith - It's nice to see him drop the mitts, but he's not a great fighter, and he needs a ton of work on his hands and skating. He's certainly a project, but he might develop in a few years.

Ferland - He looks like an NHL vet out there, not a rookie. I would be completely shocked if he wasn't an everyday player this season.

Frolik - He was very effective with his body positioning in the defensive zone, and his puck carrying ability in the offensive zone. He adds a lot of depth to this team up front.
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TSN literally never talked about the game and only showed McDavid highlights. Not a single other highlight was shown it was only about McDavid. WTF.
Get used to it. Let it feed your hate.
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Get used to it. Let it feed your hate.
On the plus side, if he has a slump, or is slow getting started (i.e. no points in 10 games) we get to enjoy endless analysis on "What's wrong with McDavid???"

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