[Signing] Oilers sign Klefbom to 7 year extension ($4.167 mil AAV)

[Seachd]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

To further explain the Brodie vs Klefbom comparison, here are their numbers for their first 3 years:

Brodie: 104 Games, 4G, 24A, 28P
Klefbom: 77 Games, 3G, 20A, 23P

No, these are Klefbom's numbers for his first 2 years.

[mikephoen]

Is this the longest contract ever signed by someone with less than 80 games played in the NHL?

[FlamesFanStrandedInEDM]

It reminds me of my EA Sports Be a GM signings.

[ricardodw]

So let me get this straight.... Klefbom is entering the 3rd year of his ELC. He is in the same contractually position as Monahan, Gaudreau, Barkov, Mackinnon, Ristolainen, Seth Jones and Nichushkin.

Elias Lindholm was in the same position and got extended for 2.7 for 2 years.

The only bargaining chip that these players have to get more than 2.5-3M for the next 2 years is an RFA offer sheet where the offering team to force the salary has to risk at least a first round draft pick.

A team offering 4.167 for any term to Klefbom would have to risk a first and a 3rd.


For what they have done in their careers so far Monahan, Gaudreau, Barkov, Mackinnon, Seth Jones and Nichushkin have all had a far better season than Kelfbom.


Oiler management is so far ahead of the pack they think they are leading when in fact they are getting lapped.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by mikephoen

Is this the longest contract ever signed by someone with less than 80 games played in the NHL?

On September 12, 2006, DiPietro signed a 15-year, $67.5 million contract with the Islanders They wanted to sign him to a similar in Sept 2005 (dipierto had 81 NHL games with 28-38-13 record) but the league stepped in and discouraged the Islanders but after a solid 63 game year in 2005-06 there was no holding the Islanders back.

I wonder if the league and the NHLPA will step in in the next CBA an make a rule where the league can reject obviously stupid contracts? It hurts the players as well as the owners as there is a finite amount of cap space that the Oilers have chosen to give to Klefbom rather than some players who deserve it.

[VERVE]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

So let me get this straight.... Klefbom is entering the 3rd year of his ELC. He is in the same contractually position as Monahan, Gaudreau, Barkov, Mackinnon, Ristolainen, Seth Jones and Nichushkin.

Elias Lindholm was in the same position and got extended for 2.7 for 2 years.

The only bargaining chip that these players have to get more than 2.5-3M for the next 2 years is an RFA offer sheet where the offering team to force the salary has to risk at least a first round draft pick.

A team offering 4.167 for any term to Klefbom would have to risk a first and a 3rd.


For what they have done in their careers so far Monahan, Gaudreau, Barkov, Mackinnon, Seth Jones and Nichushkin have all had a far better season than Kelfbom.


Oiler management is so far ahead of the pack they think they are leading when in fact they are getting lapped.

Given his rising skill and talent, the Oilers are projecting Klefbom to be a top pairing guy (from 3 or 4 to a 2 or 3 dman) playing big minutes in 2 -3 yrs time. The Oilers management are paying him more money upfront and lesser in his later years. This obviously enticed Klefbom and agent to sign longer term beyond his UFA eligibility and keeping him while in his prime (until 29). My observation in short.

In my earlier post, I forgot to add a qualifier of in the near future that Klefbom skills and talents vs Brodie is perhaps better in (2-4 yrs) hoping to explain his higher salary.

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by VERVE

Given his rising skill and talent, the Oilers are projecting Klefbom to be a top pairing guy (from 3 or 4 to a 2 or 3 dman) playing big minutes in 2 -3 yrs time. The Oilers management are paying him more money upfront and lesser in his later years. This obviously enticed Klefbom and agent to sign longer term beyond his UFA eligibility and keeping him while in his prime (until 29). My observation in short.

In my earlier post, I forgot to add a qualifier of in the near future that Klefbom skills and talents vs Brodie is perhaps better in (2-4 yrs) hoping to explain his higher salary.

You say given as if it's this sure fire can't miss thing. I haven't seen it, much of this site hasn't seen it, and it's still being trumpeted like Klefbom will be that top pairing D. Is there a chance he could develop into that top pairing D man? Yes. Is a ~$30 million contract worth that risk? It's a given to me that he isn't worth it.

[YoungGuns]

Klefbom's top ceiling is a #2 and that is a small chance. I would say a really good #3. The biggest risk here is long term injury. With his pedigree, he is not falling off the face of the earth. It's a good gamble.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by VERVE

Given his rising skill and talent, the Oilers are projecting Klefbom to be a top pairing guy (from 3 or 4 to a 2 or 3 dman) playing big minutes in 2 -3 yrs time. The Oilers management are paying him more money upfront and lesser in his later years. This obviously enticed Klefbom and agent to sign longer term beyond his UFA eligibility and keeping him while in his prime (until 29). My observation in short.

In my earlier post, I forgot to add a qualifier of in the near future that Klefbom skills and talents vs Brodie is perhaps better in (2-4 yrs) hoping to explain his higher salary.

In 2010-11 as a 20 year olds Tim Erixon and David Rundblad were on the Swedish national men's team and had can't miss top-4 d-men designation in Calgary and Ottawa, possibly in 2011-12 but almost surely after that and for a long time.

Thank goodness they were not given $4M 7-year deals based on these widely assumed projections.

[YoungGuns]

He is still on his ELC next year as well. It's better to form a more targeted opinion after then.

[getbak]

How good will his upcoming season have to be for anyone to look back on this next June and say, "Wow, Chiarelli really knew what he was doing when he got Klefblom locked up for 7 years at that price"?


For me, that's why this isn't a good deal. It might be a good deal in the long term, but it's also a deal that could likely be signed 8 months from now. Next summer, it's most likely that we'll look back on it and either say it's a fair deal for both sides or it's a bad deal for the Oilers. It's unlikely that we'll look back on it and say the Oilers got a bargain.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by getbak

How good will his upcoming season have to be for anyone to look back on this next June and say, "Wow, Chiarelli really knew what he was doing when he got Klefblom locked up for 7 years at that price"?


For me, that's why this isn't a good deal. It might be a good deal in the long term, but it's also a deal that could likely be signed 8 months from now. Next summer, it's most likely that we'll look back on it and either say it's a fair deal for both sides or it's a bad deal for the Oilers. It's unlikely that we'll look back on it and say the Oilers got a bargain.

exactly.... what a great year he would have to have to put him in the 6x6 category

[Fire]

Klefbom at best is a future #3. He might be a top pairing guy on a terrible team like the Oilers. Contract could work out but it sets a bad precedence for future signings. Always given, never earned. Still waiting for those $6x6 million contracts to become bargains for Eberle and Nugent-Hopkins.

[YoungGuns]

Originally Posted by Fire

Klefbom at best is a future #3. He might be a top pairing guy on a terrible team like the Oilers. Contract could work out but it sets a bad precedence for future signings. Always given, never earned. Still waiting for those $6x6 million contracts to become bargains for Eberle and Nugent-Hopkins.

If he is "at best a #3" then this is a great deal.

HAHA. Still waiting for those 6x6 to be a bargain? People who dissed those contracts look like morons now.

[Bandwagon In Flames]

Great way to sum up the deal. It's not a huge gamble, but it seems to be an unnecessary gamble and a similar deal likely could of been made next off-season.

Knowing the Oilers management though, they are projecting McDavid to score 100 points this season and Klefbom collecting points alongside all of their amazing talent that's clearly already proven their worth in the NHL. Oh wait..

[YoungGuns]

So if Klefbom continues to progress, do you know for sure he would sign the same deal next summer?

[VERVE]

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

You say given as if it's this sure fire can't miss thing. I haven't seen it, much of this site hasn't seen it, and it's still being trumpeted like Klefbom will be that top pairing D. Is there a chance he could develop into that top pairing D man? Yes. Is a ~$30 million contract worth that risk? It's a given to me that he isn't worth it.

The Oilers obviously believes Klefbom stock will rise in a few years therefore signing him long term is less risky and they have control over him and the budget. They feel signing for a little more now and saving in the future paying him under 5 million for UFA status is pretty fair deal especially if he becomes a number 2 or 3. The overall deal is fairly good for under 5 million for 7 years (I think) given his projection.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by getbak

How good will his upcoming season have to be for anyone to look back on this next June and say, "Wow, Chiarelli really knew what he was doing when he got Klefblom locked up for 7 years at that price"?

Honestly not that good... he'd basically just have to be slightly better than last year and boom, solid price for a young top 4 defender with upside. My thing is that there probably wasn't a lot of downside to waiting another year to do this; it's unlikely he would have commanded significantly more next summer.

[Hackey]

It was a calculated risk by the Oilers but you'd hope they have a good idea of his talent and potential. Its definitely a risk giving him so many years but if it pays off it could be a really nice signing. If he pans out average then the deal looks ok. If he ####s the bed then its terrible. The risk is there but I don't think its that high. I think there is more potential for upside or at minimum a decent deal. As a Flames fan though I'll definitely be hoping this back fires terribly for them.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Hackey

It was a calculated risk by the Oilers but you'd hope they have a good idea of his talent and potential. Its definitely a risk giving him so many years but if it pays off it could be a really nice signing. If he pans out average then the deal looks ok. If he ####s the bed then its terrible. The risk is there but I don't think its that high. I think there is more potential for upside or at minimum a decent deal. As a Flames fan though I'll definitely be hoping this back fires terribly for them.

Yup. Fortunately, the GM had already had a full practice with him.