Anti-Pride Bus Driver Fired

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

I actually burst out into laughter when I read this. How deliciously ignorant.

Firing a City of Calgary union member is near impossible. Now I don't know if they would have fired him if he was a union member but the City has one of the strongest unions and they fight very hard for their employees. It wouldn't have been as easy as firing this guy that's for sure.

[Minnie]

Originally Posted by blankall

Doubtful. Firing a union member is near impossible. They probably would have reassigned him to a different role.

Derp. I forgot they're unionized. It isn't in my frame of reference as my husband's never held a union job and so union isn't my first go to. Thanks.

[Cuz]

Being a transit operator myself, I often find myself wanting to comment on transit related issues on this forum, but self censor so I do not potentially violate our social media policy.

On this issue, all I will say is he was dumb to handle himself in this way while under probation.

[Reaper]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Dated "2014 September 10". Way to proofread, City of Calgary HR.

That's how much they wanted to fire him. In the future, when time travel is invented, their first priority is to travel back to one year before he would cause this trainwreck and fire him then.

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by Buff

I was stupid for posting.

amen.

[Johnny199r]

Originally Posted by Cuz

Being a transit operator myself, I often find myself wanting to comment on transit related issues on this forum, but self censor so I do not potentially violate our social media policy.

On this issue, all I will say is he was dumb to handle himself in this way while under probation.

I think being a bus driver would be incredibly stressful......

[btimbit]

If I spoke directly to the media about something my company was doing that I didn't agree with, I'd expect to get canned too. Let alone on a topic like this. I'm sure a simple "I don't want to drive that, here's my reasons" to his manager would have likely been sufficient, but he wanted to prove a point and drag CT into it. Regardless of what the issue is, that isn't okay.

[ben voyonsdonc]

Originally Posted by Buff

Can't I say to a friend "I like you, I disagree with your lifestyle, but I am not going to get in your way of living it." without being called a bigot?

Being gay isn't a lifestyle. It is a life. I am gay 24 hours a day/365 days a year. When you say that you disagree with that, you are telling people like me that you disagree with part of who I am as a person.

Is being gay all that I am? Nope. I am a complex individual who loves sports, my cat, my family, my friends, and my country. However, being gay determines who I'll spend the rest of my life with and as such, I can't discount the fact that it is an essential part of who I am as a human being.

[ben voyonsdonc]

In leap years though...I may try some other things.

[LIP MAN]

Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc

Being gay isn't a lifestyle. It is a life. I am gay 24 hours a day/365 days a year. When you say that you disagree with that, you are telling people like me that you disagree with part of who I am as a person.

Is being gay all that I am? Nope. I am a complex individual who loves sports, my cat, my family, my friends, and my country. However, being gay determines who I'll spend the rest of my life with and as such, I can't discount the fact that it is an essential part of who I am as a human being.

Nice response. Bigotry takes more than a few forms, some of it more subtle than others.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Johnny199r

Many Christians feels discriminated against these days, now that they are the minority.

The irony there being that in their world, "discrimination" means losing a privileged position.

And in the case of this issue, even Pope Francis has moved from a position of significant opposition to LGBT rights when he was a Cardinal to his famous "who am I to judge?" comment a couple years ago. He hasn't changed church doctrine on the matter yet, but if the leader of the Christian church can suffer a period of reflection, one has to ask why so many Christians are not able to do the same.

[DownInFlames]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

The irony there being that in their world, "discrimination" means losing a privileged position.

And in the case of this issue, even Pope Francis has moved from a position of significant opposition to LGBT rights when he was a Cardinal to his famous "who am I to judge?" comment a couple years ago. He hasn't changed church doctrine on the matter yet, but if the leader of the Christian church can suffer a period of reflection, one has to ask why so many Christians are not able to do the same.

Maybe, and I might be going out on a limb here, it never was about religious beliefs in the first place. They're just using Christianity to justify their homophobia. I know, that's crazy, right?

[pylon]

Originally Posted by Buff

I was stupid for posting. My intent was not to preach but how could I have not expected anything else to happen. Of course I am going to be attacked for my beliefs and of course I'm going to defend statements that I feel need to be addressed. I'm not trying to turn this into a thread on Christianity. Sorry for posting.

I also apologize for using the term "coming out". Again, that was completely stupid. I should have been smarter than that. You see my explanation but that his not good enough. I'll just drop this and leave.

You should be attacked for your beliefs when they are wrong. Which they are.

If people keep leaving religious rights unchallenged, and never attack them, they will never be changed, or modified, to accept people for who they are. Religion supports bigotry, every single one, in some way shape or form. That, is why they are so evil. Believe whatever the hell you want, as long as it does not persecute or marginalize another individual. If your beliefs do that, you should expect the same in return.

There is no sin in loving whoever you choose to love. And there is no magical being in the sky judging people for it. Full stop. End of argument.

[Looch City]

Let me enlighten you on what the Lord Jesus Christ said about gay marriage:

________.

[Roast Beef]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

The irony there being that in their world, "discrimination" means losing a privileged position.

And in the case of this issue, even Pope Francis has moved from a position of significant opposition to LGBT rights when he was a Cardinal to his famous "who am I to judge?" comment a couple years ago. He hasn't changed church doctrine on the matter yet, but if the leader of the Christian church can suffer a period of reflection, one has to ask why so many Christians are not able to do the same.

I wouldn't fall for this. I personally think Pope Francis is running a shell game here. He knows the winds of change are blowing, so he's altering the "message" to make it more appealing to that mindset, without actually altering the core beliefs. He's a very dangerous individual and should not be taken at his word in any way shape or form. In the immortal words of the great Admiral Akbar: "It's a Trap!"

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Roast Beef

I wouldn't fall for this. I personally think Pope Francis is running a shell game here. He knows the winds of change are blowing, so he's altering the "message" to make it more appealing to that mindset, without actually altering the core beliefs. He's a very dangerous individual and should not be taken at his word in any way shape or form. In the immortal words of the great Admiral Akbar: "It's a Trap!"

Of course he is. Its a business in my eyes . You have to pump out whats popular with the times other wise donations dry right up. look how many times they flip flop on issues in history. Most people who argue against gays are most likely hypocrites . It seems that most people cherry pick which parts of the bible suit them best. I'm sure the majority people who argue being homosexual are an abomination in all likely hood are the people who wouldn't turn down a shell fish dinner which is also considered an abomination too.


Bart: Soul? Come on Milhouse, there's no such thing as a soul. It's just something they make up to scare kids, like the Boogeyman or Michael Jackson.
Milhouse: But every religion says there's a soul, Bart. Why would they lie? What would they have to gain?
Reverend Lovejoy: I don't hear scrubbing!

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by pylon

You should be attacked for your beliefs when they are wrong.

I'm not sure this is the answer.

[chemgear]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xev...-knows-me_news

Cos Jesus he knows me
and he knows I'm right
I've been talking to Jesus all my life
oh yes he knows me
and he knows I'm right
and he's been telling me
everything is alright

I believe in the family
with my ever loving wife beside me
but she don't know about my girlfriend
or the man I met last night

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

I'm not sure this is the answer.

What I think (hope) he meant to say was that BELIEFS deserve to be challenged and put under scrutiny. The ideas deserve to be torn apart.

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by Poison

Thats bigotry? Dont think his job description involved him being forced to drive or promote anything against his beliefs.
The way this guy got railroaded is disgusting.
He is just entitled to feel against it as people are for it.
I hope he sues the crap out of calgary transit.

They aren't beliefs, it's extreme and it's hatred, using religious beliefs to mask your hatred of a certain segment of the population is a freaking cop-out. Human rights trump religious rights. if you aren't smart enough to understand that the real message you should get taking away from a thousand year out piece of paper is to "Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins." then in my books, you are just full of hate (which is ironic in it self, if you claim to be religious)