08-11-2015, 10:58 AM
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#141
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I'm not saying Calgary should be Munich. I like how Munich was able to blend old and new, and that is their new identity.
I think people who are smarter than me could plan future Calgary projects to mix some of the old and new so that Calgary's new identity world-class modern, with a touch of it's Western Heritage roots mixed in. Just put a few hay bales in the concourses of the new rink, and voila.
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08-11-2015, 11:05 AM
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#142
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Moscow
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Originally Posted by Daradon
It's not unique, but we've chosen to make it special.
I think that's the disconnect here. It's not unique. It's not even the biggest part of our heritage. But we ran with it, and we made it awesome and successful and profitable and memorable.
And as such, it is historical now.
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Well, we've made it profitable (at least the Stampede board has). I remain skeptical of the other adjectives you've used.
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08-11-2015, 11:05 AM
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#143
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
I'm not saying Calgary should be Munich. I like how Munich was able to blend old and new, and that is their new identity.
I think people who are smarter than me could plan future Calgary projects to mix some of the old and new so that Calgary's new identity world-class modern, with a touch of it's Western Heritage roots mixed in. Just put a few hay bales in the concourses of the new rink, and voila. 
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Munich is like 700 years old (in the modern sense, perhaps over 1000 before that)? Calgary, not even 150.
One step at a time man. Planning cities is TOUGH. And the best ones go through multiple plans and multiple ages. It's not SimCity.
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08-11-2015, 11:21 AM
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#144
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Location: Auckland, NZ
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
I think people who are smarter than me could plan future Calgary projects to mix some of the old and new so that Calgary's new identity world-class modern, with a touch of it's Western Heritage roots mixed in. Just put a few hay bales in the concourses of the new rink, and voila. 
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But again, we don't drive western-themed vehicles here, we drive modern and new cars and people are always looking for the latest models. Similarly, why does our architecture have to keep going to the past for inspiration? There's nothing architecturally significant about that western era. If you want western-inspired buildings, go to Heritage Park. We don't need to make the entire city look and feel like that.
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08-11-2015, 11:25 AM
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#145
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Daradon
Munich is like 700 years old (in the modern sense, perhaps over 1000 before that)? Calgary, not even 150.
One step at a time man. Planning cities is TOUGH. And the best ones go through multiple plans and multiple ages. It's not SimCity.
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Similarly, it's kinda tough to predict what will be looked back on as "cool history" and what will be looked back on as a joke.
Do you think anyone will be complaining that there isn't any awesome architecture from the 60's, with it's modernist blocks and efficient floor plans? But man they sure as hell might miss cool 50's diners or signs.
It's tough to plan what to preserve and what to replace.
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08-11-2015, 11:41 AM
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#146
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Originally Posted by getbak
I want to see this image re-created by Nenshi. Bunk, can you make that happen?
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I got no pull any more. Out of the inner circle. Daorcey, however...
Interestingly, there is a Transit one they recreated kind of like this with the corresponding leaders at the city and the former Mayor.
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08-11-2015, 12:23 PM
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#147
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Originally Posted by polak
Similarly, it's kinda tough to predict what will be looked back on as "cool history" and what will be looked back on as a joke.
Do you think anyone will be complaining that there isn't any awesome architecture from the 60's, with it's modernist blocks and efficient floor plans? But man they sure as hell might miss cool 50's diners or signs.
It's tough to plan what to preserve and what to replace.
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By that token, another 100 years may make Calgary's cowboy heritage look even more authentic.
No one knows. That's my point. so why does everyone get so bent outta shape about it?
Doubtful, unless some rancher goes Hitler, our Stampede will ever be looked at as a joke. Sure it may fade. But it'll never be a joke.
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08-11-2015, 12:24 PM
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#148
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My face is a bum!
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
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This stadium is awful. Fitting the image file name is "allianz-arena-gross.jpg". I'm sure that is in English
It looks kind of cool-ugly until you get close and it just looks like a big vinyl, fancier version of an inflatable roof structure.
The atmosphere is pretty dark and dingy.
It even made the list of 10 worst football stadiums: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...-revealed.html
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08-11-2015, 12:29 PM
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#149
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In the Sin Bin
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That article only complains about it's surrounding area as it's next to a landfill and sewage plant.
It's nice when it's lit up.
A lot nicer than any Canadian stadiums.
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08-11-2015, 12:30 PM
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#150
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Originally Posted by Makarov
Well, we've made it profitable (at least the Stampede board has). I remain skeptical of the other adjectives you've used.
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Your no fun.
That's what I don't get about the Stampede hate. Because it's not completely historically accurate? Jeez, look at other worldwide festivals. Not only are most not completely historically accurate, but some of them come from very dark places. Your a smart guy. I know you could come up with three examples before I could come up with one.
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08-11-2015, 01:31 PM
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#151
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Originally Posted by Bill Bumface
This stadium is awful. Fitting the image file name is "allianz-arena-gross.jpg". I'm sure that is in English
It looks kind of cool-ugly until you get close and it just looks like a big vinyl, fancier version of an inflatable roof structure.
The atmosphere is pretty dark and dingy.
It even made the list of 10 worst football stadiums: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...-revealed.html
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Allianz awful? Location maybe, but the stadium is amazing in every way. That article is clearly a British guy being jealous of Germany.
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08-11-2015, 01:39 PM
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#152
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Location: Moscow
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Originally Posted by Daradon
Your no fun.
That's what I don't get about the Stampede hate. Because it's not completely historically accurate? Jeez, look at other worldwide festivals. Not only are most not completely historically accurate, but some of them come from very dark places. Your a smart guy. I know you could come up with three examples before I could come up with one.
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Haha, not the first time I've been accused of being no fun. I don't know. I am a bit of a pretentious snob.
Anyway, I like Stampede. Its good old fashioned drunken fun. I just don't like how it sometimes seems to dominate the rest of Calgary's culture (although thankfully that does appear to be changing with the death of Stampitecture etc.)
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08-11-2015, 02:17 PM
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#153
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My face is a bum!
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
Allianz awful? Location maybe, but the stadium is amazing in every way. That article is clearly a British guy being jealous of Germany.
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Have you attended a game there?
The Portland Timbers have a better stadium. You know, a converted baseball stadium sandwiched against a warehouse provides a better atmosphere than the modern, super expensive stadium of one of Europe's biggest, most successful clubs.
This is a pretty stadium:
We are digressing. But I hope our new stadium doesn't end up like Allianz.
Hopefully their best tenant, 1860, find a better home soon
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08-11-2015, 02:19 PM
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#154
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My face is a bum!
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Originally Posted by polak
It's nice when it's lit up.
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No disagreements there.
This pig only wears the finest of lipsticks.
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08-11-2015, 03:01 PM
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#155
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by polak
That article only complains about it's surrounding area as it's next to a landfill and sewage plant.
It's nice when it's lit up.
A lot nicer than any Canadian stadiums.
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You spelt gaudy wrong.
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08-11-2015, 03:03 PM
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#156
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In the Sin Bin
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Well it's no Polish National Stadium
Seriously though. It's pretty pathetic that Canada has maybe one world class stadium in BC Place (Skydome is out dated).
Lets hope Calgary now having 1.2 million people ushers in a new era of interesting architecture.
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08-11-2015, 03:03 PM
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#157
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by polak
Well it's no Polish National Stadium

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thank #### for that, also gaudy
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08-11-2015, 03:09 PM
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#158
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
thank #### for that, also gaudy
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Is this humble enough for you?
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08-11-2015, 03:18 PM
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#159
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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I actually really like BC Place. I always have a great time watching Whitecaps games there. I also don't have a problem with its concrete look; it's not ideal, but it's not littered with sports graphics and visual eyesores everywhere either.
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08-11-2015, 03:21 PM
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#160
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Muta
I actually really like BC Place. I always have a great time watching Whitecaps games there. I also don't have a problem with its concrete look; it's not ideal, but it's not littered with sports graphics and visual eyesores everywhere either.
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It's pretty much exactly the same as the National Stadium in Warsaw except the roof lights up instead of the sides.
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