Friedman's 30 Thoughts - Nov 6

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan

It's already been discussed what that phrase meant. I won't bother addressing it again.

So "clearly has a problem between the ears" means something else?

You asked for me to give you a quote, here it is. Don't be all defensive again just because you were wrong.

[heep223]

According to the coaching staff (and most Flames fans and media around the league), he hasn't played well enough to show that he's a full time NHLer, yet. That's all there is to it. Everything else, including whatever position you take on what's between his ears, is speculation.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

The kid clearly has talent as you don't score at the well over PPG pace he did in junior unless you are pretty gifted. So what is it? Is he just not as good a hockey player as we thought or does he have to mature and better handle the ups and downs of being a professional hockey player? IMO it's a little of both. He's not the first player that lit up the junior ranks and couldn't adapt to the professional game on and off the ice.

It can't possibly be anything else. Nope.

Poor character. That's it.

[waner]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

So "clearly has a problem between the ears" means something else?

You asked for me to give you a quote, here it is. Don't be all defensive again just because you were wrong.

That isn't close to treating anyone like a deliquent.

LOL this is your evidence and you are saying someone else is defensive for being wrong?

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

So "clearly has a problem between the ears" means something else?

You asked for me to give you a quote, here it is. Don't be all defensive again just because you were wrong.

Bahahaha…ok then. There's nothing defensive about what I said. Just didn't want to bog down the thread with another explanation, but since you won't go and read them here goes:

The phrase "problem between the ears" refers to him struggling with a mental part of the game, whether it be confidence, positivity, perceived mistreatment from management, or just general excitement and enthusiasm to play. All he was saying is that it's not a physical problem with Sven, it's obviously on the mental side that he needs a correction. It does not mean that anyone thinks he's a lazy, good-for-nothing, unlikeable, "delinquent", or whatever other thing you can think of that you wanted us to say but didn't at any point.

In no way was I wrong, but you seem to have trouble admitting when you are.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Okay, but I don't think he's sucked in those games. Jooris playing great with limited minutes doesn't mean another guy with the same minutes "sucked".

I guess that depends on who you talk to. I honestly didn't see enough of him on TV to critique his play in those games but a few of the guys on 960 said this week he wasn't very good but it's just their opinion and reality is that Hartley's opinion is the only one that counts.

I'd like to see him on the 2nd PP but I have noticed over the years here Hartley is hesitant to throw young player on the powerplay right away. Monahan didn't get a lot of top PP minutes last season and Gadreau didn't get a sniff of the PP until recently. My thinking is always that if you can get the kid on the PP and he gets a goal or nice assist that it can spark confidence in his play that manifests into the rest of his game 5 on 5.

[GioforPM]

Between the ears means it's a mental/emotional issue. You have said time and time again that he is being put under a microscope/humiliated/disparaged, which causes his mediocre play.

[MissTeeks]

Originally Posted by Dion

Start a discussion and see where it goes.

I'm wondering why bother, I bet most people didn't even bother to read the entire article. But here:

Nerd or not, MLB’s Statcast system is pretty interesting. Maybe you’re not that interested in Yordano Ventura’s “spin rate,” but watching Cain’s route to the ball and the speed he reaches to get there should yank your chain. After all, most of us wouldn’t be able to make that catch, unless we could drive a Bugatti while playing centrefield.
Last week in San Jose, NHL teams were invited to a presentation of similar technology designed for sports like hockey. MLB and NBA tracking is done by cameras, and there are questions about accuracy when it comes to competition with heavier contact.
Enter an infra-red chip system.

One of the first teams to take the plunge was Florida State’s football program, after two of its assistant coaches saw the devices being used in Aussie Rules. The Seminoles won the NCAA championship last season, with head coach Jimbo Fisher telling ESPN that the devices “virtually eliminated soft-tissue injuries.”
(According to the ESPN report, Seminoles players hilariously referred to the chest straps as “bros.” The chips can also be sewn into jerseys.)
This is the second benefit of the system. Not only are we talking about measuring how quickly a player can do something on the ice, but also knowing when players are not at peak performance, or if changing practice routines can improve their bodily output. Philadelphia Eagles coach Chip Kelly is a fan, as are the Toronto Raptors (Catapult’s online client list is here).

The biggest? Medical information.
Who owns it? What can be done with it? For example, if you’re making a decision on a lucrative free-agent contract, could the chip tell you if, say, a player’s hip is not “firing” as well as it did when he was younger? Or, if a player is more susceptible to groin/abdominal injuries as he ages?
The possibilities are enormous. The Department of Player Safety could benefit, for example, by knowing if a skater truly tried to slow down before delivering a dangerous or borderline hit. Maybe we’re eventually talking about a chip inside the puck to determine goal or no goal, as soccer now does.

I think this sounds pretty neat. If it helps reduce injuries, it seems like something to try out.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

It can't possibly be anything else. Nope.

Poor character. That's it.

He didn't say anything like that. Why are you being purposely obtuse?

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by waner

That isn't close to treating anyone like a deliquent.

LOL this is your evidence and you are saying someone else is defensive for being wrong?

Dilinquents are treated like they have poor character because there may be actual evidence to back that up (criminal records, etc.)

In this case, there is no evidence to back up the claim that Sven has poor character. There is more overwhelming evidence of the exact opposite.

I have a problem with that.

(also welcome back to the previously banned posters in this thread)

Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan

He didn't say anything like that. Why are you being purposely obtuse?

I'm being obtuse yet you've caught up our conversation because of the word "delinquent"?

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

It can't possibly be anything else. Nope.

Poor character. That's it.

Do you even know what the definition of poor character is?

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Dilinquents are treated like they have poor character because there may be actual evidence to back that up (criminal records, etc.)

In this case, there is no evidence to back up the claim that Sven has poor character. There is more overwhelming evidence of the exact opposite.

I have a problem with that.

(also welcome back to the previously banned posters in this thread)

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Dilinquents are treated like they have poor character because there may be actual evidence to back that up (criminal records, etc.)

In this case, there is no evidence to back up the claim that Sven has poor character. There is more overwhelming evidence of the exact opposite.

I have a problem with that.

(also welcome back to the previously banned posters in this thread)

a. Delinquents are treated like "that" (sentenced?) because they commit a crime. Not because they have poor character in general.

b. Saying someone has a mental or emotional issue like lack of confidence or being negative isn't accusing them of poor character.

c. Your attempt to defend your use of "delinquent" and find posts which treated Sven as such is a

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan

You keep using these memes, but I don't think they work like you think they work.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

a. Delinquents are treated like "that" (sentenced?) because they commit a crime. Not because they have poor character in general.

b. Saying someone has a mental or emotional issue like lack of confidence or being negative isn't accusing them of poor character.

c. Your attempt to defend your use of "delinquent" and find posts which treated Sven as such is a

It's an analogy. A comparison.

If you literally thought that I meant you guys were treating him like he had commited a crime, then I don't know what to say.

[Galakanokis]

I wonder if Ashax pulled a groin as that was one hell of a stretch on the between the ears comment.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Alright, you guys disagree with each other. Get over it. I'm tired of reading Sven Baertschi on every freakin' thread.

None of us know Sven personally. The only one that can fix Sven is Sven himself.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

It's an analogy. A comparison.

If you literally thought that I meant you guys were treating him like he had commited a crime, then I don't know what to say.

The definition was given and you said "yes, I know what it means and I meant to use it".

If you were attempting to use an analogy it was not a good attempt.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

You keep using these memes, but I don't think they work like you think they work.

Sorry, that's the only response you get now since you're acting cranky. Good luck fighting the good fight.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

The definition was given and you said "yes, I know what it means and I meant to use it".

If you were attempting to use an analogy it was not a good attempt.

So because I knew the definition of the word means it's not appropriate for an analogy?

Can I get Textcritic's opinion on this one?

An analogy is never a direct, 100% comparison. Otherwise it wouldn't be an analogy.