Burger King in talks to buy Tim Hortons

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by Igster

lol...

And on the subject, how the hell can anyone drink a double double and think they are drinking coffee? Seriously?

How can anyone drink Budweiser/Kokanee/[insert cheap beer] and think they are drinking beer?

Simple: people have different tastes.

[Burke Salad]

Serial Killers like there coffee black! I am a tea drinker, so what do I know.

[_Q_]

Yeah Keurigs are pretty terrible, but I'll still drink one cup a day, black without having my gag reflex kick in.

It's fine if you like Tim Hortons, I understand that there's a market out there for junk food (cheap, high calorie, easily accessible garbage). But don't try to play off this fake patriotism, Canadian icon, "what you're too good for Tom Hortons Mr. Coffee snob?" bull#### around me when I refuse to drink their coffee.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by _Q_

Yeah Keurigs are pretty terrible, but I'll still drink one cup a day, black without having my gag reflex kick in.

It's fine if you like Tim Hortons, I understand that there's a market out there for junk food (cheap, high calorie, easily accessible garbage). But don't try to play off this fake patriotism, Canadian icon, "what you're too good for Tom Hortons Mr. Coffee snob?" bull#### around me when I refuse to drink their coffee.

And who exactly is doing that. The only people talking about the fake patriotism are those that DON'T drink Tim Hortons. I have yet to see a single person in this thread say "I drink Tim Horton's because they are oh so Canadian!"

[nik-]

I would be interested to see the growth in Tim Horton's since they started the Canadiana ads.

[Igster]

Originally Posted by Iggy City

How can anyone drink Budweiser/Kokanee/[insert cheap beer] and think they are drinking beer?

Simple: people have different tastes.

Point is and still is, it's not coffee anymore if you insert all that sugar and cream. The above beers are still beers, regardless if you like them or not over other brands. Apples and oranges my friend.

[Igster]

Originally Posted by Burke Salad

Serial Killers like there coffee black! I am a tea drinker, so what do I know.

*Their

Apparently tea drinkers can't spell.

[Senator Clay Davis]

I'd be curious to know what percentage of Tim's coffee is sold as a double double or more (like the utterly revolting triple triple). When I was younger and pretty much kept it only to a Tim's double double, I enjoyed it but over time it just got to be way too sweet. So I switched to a regular (one cream, one sugar) and that's pretty much when I stopped drinking Tim's. Basically the more you can taste the actual coffee, the more you realize how poor it is.

So for instance talking about how there's different types of beer and everyone enjoys something different is a little off base as a comparison. It's better to compare Bud Light and Bud Light Lime. Beer is fundamentally beer as coffee is fundamentally coffee, but some people can only enjoy a Bud Light Lime and not a Bud Light because adding the lime changes the taste enough to make "beer" tolerable. Likewise with Tim's at the double double and beyond level it tastes so little like coffee and more like cream and sugar (and really it tastes like a diabetic coma), that it's not even really comparable to other coffees that don't require excess sugar and cream to taste "good".

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by nik-

I would be interested to see the growth in Tim Horton's since they started the Canadiana ads.

I think there are a few things that led to TH's growth.
- Distribution: they blanketed the country with their stores. It used to be that you had a fair number of Robin's doughnuts, Country Style, etc competing with TH for the low end of the coffee/doughnuts market. TH really ramped up their expansion physically and pushed those guys largely out.
- Their physical expansion including placing smaller stores in gas stations - further increasing their foot print.
- Understanding their market: You can be annoyed by the Canadiana ads but they struck a chord. This is because TH new how to speak to their customers.
- Drive-thrus. We are a lazy species - ensuring that almost every location has a drive through is big.

They clearly struggle with their food offering - they've had numerous big launches and pull backs in the last decade that I'm sure cost a lot of $$$. Things that required completely new equipment to be installed - such as the hot roast beef sandwiches. So they've had some mis-steps, but they've made a lot of good moves at the same time to completely dominate an important share of their market.

[nik-]

Oh there's no arguing they've successfully exploited a hole in the Canadian psyche. I just think that it's some of the most disingenuous #### out there. Product aside, I loathe Tim Horton's as a company for what they do.

[CaptainYooh]

Originally Posted by Iggy City

How can anyone drink Budweiser/Kokanee/[insert cheap beer] and think they are drinking beer?

Simple people have different tastes.

fyp

[darklord700]

Facinating read about 3G's corporate culture.

"When Tim Horton’s managers meet their new overlords at 3G, “They will have no idea what hit them,” Harris said."

http://business.financialpost.com/20...t-tim-hortons/

[Buff]

How long until Burger King changes the name of "Double Whopper" to "Whopper Whopper"?

[FlameOn]

King Hortons anyone?

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by nik-

I'm laughing at the people on the news and in newspaper articles saying they don't want this because it will ruin a Canadian icon. Tim Horton's doesn't give a #### about Canada. They've just found a hyper effective ad philosophy that taps into the Canadian insecurity about the "Canadian identity" and they exploit the hell out of it. To great financial gain.

These people are such suckers.

Originally Posted by nik-

Oh there's no arguing they've successfully exploited a hole in the Canadian psyche. I just think that it's some of the most disingenuous #### out there. Product aside, I loathe Tim Horton's as a company for what they do.

Some of you are so irrational. Tim Horton's doesn't force anyone to consume their products. Not a single Canadian. Lets not forget Tim Horton was a Canadian man that played for the Toronto Maple Leafs so even the name Tim Hortons is Canadian. Funny how "Made in America" elicits pride in Americans but if you try that in Canada you are loathed? Weird.

Tim Hortons doesn't give a #### about Canada? I think we all realize that every single company cares about the bottom line above all but whether it be Timbits Hockey or childrens camps they actually do give back to communities. It's fairly obvious by your posts that you have an irrational dislike for Tim Hortons so why make up bogus reasoning when you can just as easily accomplish by saying you don't like them?

[Byrns]

So when do the hippy's begin protesting that our Canadian Tim Horton's have been "sold out" to Americans?

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Byrns

So when do the hippy's begin protesting that our Canadian Tim Horton's have been "sold out" to Americans?

Did that happen when Wendy's had shares?

[Regulator75]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Did that happen when Wendy's had shares?

Only via the idiotic Calgary Sun comments in actual black and white, FB and Twitter weren't that active back then.

[automaton 3]

Originally Posted by Igster

lol...

Sorry, I drink a cup to 2 cups of Keurig coffee a day and it is a million times better than Tim's. Again, I drink coffee black (and the main reason why I thanked pylon's post above) and many of the good Keurig cups beat Tim's in a comparison without it even being close.

I drink coffee black as well, and think the same. Keurig coffee is far from premium but is superior to TH. Timmy's coffee black is pretty much terrible. OT but I have not idea why they have to make it so freaking hot as well.

Every once in awhile someone will buy me a double double and there is no doubt to me that it masks the flavor of the coffee.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

And who exactly is doing that. The only people talking about the fake patriotism are those that DON'T drink Tim Hortons. I have yet to see a single person in this thread say "I drink Tim Horton's because they are oh so Canadian!"

Nobody ever thinks they are buying anything because of the advertising. Maybe that's true.

On the other hand, maybe the corporations spending billions on advertising and their army of statisticians and marketers measuring the response to the ads are right, and people do buy stuff because of ads.