03-20-2014, 03:39 PM
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#141
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan
You don't challenge them with equally abhorant views though.
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I think the average person is someone that you can discuss different topics with in a civil manner while having opposing views.
Thes individuals don't fit that description "average person".
They are hate filled and I have no issues with agressively refuting their views/position.
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03-20-2014, 03:49 PM
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#142
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Tampa, Florida
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rot in hell
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03-21-2014, 10:11 AM
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#145
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Ben
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: God's Country (aka Cape Breton Island)
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While I don't feel sad about the passing of Fred Phelps, I can't imagine being hated as much as he was. People who didn't know him, who he never met, are happy and rejoice his death.
What goes wrong in someone's life to have that level of utter contempt?
I couldn't imagine living in a world here I was hated by everyone, hated by people I didn't know, hated by the masses. I generally think that if I'm not in the room people don't give me a second thought, I'm flattered when people have good things to say "behind my back" sort to speak. But hate, and hate on the level that Phelps was hated... just take a second and think about that.
It's sad really.
If my contempt for his evil wasn't so great, I'd pity him. However, he made his bed, now he will burn in it.
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03-21-2014, 01:00 PM
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#146
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Apparently SLAYER will be protesting his funeral.
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03-21-2014, 01:10 PM
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#147
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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From Nate Phelps on his father's passing:
Fred Phelps is now the past. The present and the future are for the living. Unfortunately, Fred’s ideas have not died with him, but live on, not just among the members of Westboro Baptist Church, but among the many communities and small minds that refuse to recognize the equality and humanity of our brothers and sisters on this small planet we share. I will mourn his passing, not for the man he was, but for the man he could have been. I deeply mourn the grief and pain felt by my family members denied their right to visit him in his final days. They deserved the right to finally have closure to decades of rejection, and that was stolen from them.
Even more, I mourn the ongoing injustices against the LGBT community, the unfortunate target of his 23 year campaign of hate. His life impacted many outside the walls of the WBC compound, uniting us across all spectrums of orientation and belief as we realized our strength lies in our commonalities, and not our differences. How many times have communities risen up together in a united wall against the harassment of my family? Differences have been set aside for that cause, tremendous and loving joint efforts mobilized within hours… and because of that, I ask this of everyone — let his death mean something. Let every mention of his name and of his church be a constant reminder of the tremendous good we are all capable of doing in our communities.
The lessons of my father were not unique to him, nor will this be the last we hear of his words, which are echoed from pulpits as close as other churches in Topeka, Kansas, where WBC headquarters remain, and as far away as Uganda. Let’s end the support of hateful and divisive teachings describing the LGBT community as “less than”, “sinful”, or “abnormal.” Embrace the LGBT community as our equals, our true brothers and sisters, by promoting equal rights for everyone, without exception. My father was a man of action, and I implore us all to embrace that small portion of his faulty legacy by doing the same.
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03-21-2014, 01:33 PM
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#148
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Kalispell, Montana
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Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate
How do you know that the null result of their activities isn't because of all the diverse groups that have stood up against them in unison?
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I'm sure that's part of it. I'm sure the sick feeling 99.9% of the people that see the signs WBC uses at their events has a lot more to do with it.
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03-21-2014, 01:38 PM
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#149
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Kalispell, Montana
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate
Such as? What is the equally abhorrent view to "God Hates Fags"?
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I wasn't aware that hatred had a sliding scale of abhorrence.
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03-21-2014, 09:42 PM
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#150
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cavalera403
Apparently SLAYER will be protesting his funeral.
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http://tyrannyoftradition.com/2014/0...helps-funeral/
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Carrying signs saying “God Hates Self-Righteous Fanatics” and “At Least Satan Has Good Taste In Music”, members of the heavy metal rock band Slayer today camped outside the Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kansas waiting to protest the funeral of WBC leader Fred Phelps. An outspoken critic of people of other races, homosexuality, heavy metal and pasteurized milk, Phelps passed away earlier today after suffering a severe heart attack when informed that Ellen DeGeneres had a popular television talk show. He was 84.
Animosity between Slayer and Westboro has been mounting since Phelps threatened to picket the funeral of Slayer guitarist Jeff Hanneman last year. Phelps, who fronted a Carnivore cover band known as “Jesus Hitler” back in the early 90′s, felt that beyond being a group of unwashed heathens, Slayer simply weren’t very good anymore. “They have profaned the name of Christ! That is obvious. But worse, they really haven’t recorded anything worth listening to since Divine Intervention!” said Phelps in a fiery sermon 3 months ago.
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03-21-2014, 09:47 PM
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#151
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Had an idea!
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I hate to say it, but Phelps was right about Slayer when it came to their music. Most overrated band ever.
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03-21-2014, 10:01 PM
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#152
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan
I wasn't aware that hatred had a sliding scale of abhorrence.
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Person A hates black people.
Person B hates person A because he hates black people.
I think person A tips the scale on that balance. I readily admit that I am intolerant of intolerant people. If this makes me a hell-bound #######, so be it.
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03-21-2014, 10:12 PM
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#153
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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03-22-2014, 01:38 AM
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#154
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JonDuke
http://tyrannyoftradition.com/2014/0...helps-funeral/
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Carrying signs saying “God Hates Self-Righteous Fanatics” and “At Least Satan Has Good Taste In Music”, members of the heavy metal rock band Slayer today camped outside the Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kansas waiting to protest the funeral of WBC leader Fred Phelps. An outspoken critic of people of other races, homosexuality, heavy metal and pasteurized milk, Phelps passed away earlier today after suffering a severe heart attack when informed that Ellen DeGeneres had a popular television talk show. He was 84.
Animosity between Slayer and Westboro has been mounting since Phelps threatened to picket the funeral of Slayer guitarist Jeff Hanneman last year. Phelps, who fronted a Carnivore cover band known as “Jesus Hitler” back in the early 90′s, felt that beyond being a group of unwashed heathens, Slayer simply weren’t very good anymore. “They have profaned the name of Christ! That is obvious. But worse, they really haven’t recorded anything worth listening to since Divine Intervention!” said Phelps in a fiery sermon 3 months ago.
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Well, he was right about one thing..
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03-22-2014, 03:20 AM
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#155
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wins 10 internets
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: slightly to the left
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These people were camped out opposite the WBC group at their latest protest, a Lorde concert
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03-22-2014, 02:23 PM
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#156
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Kalispell, Montana
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate
Person A hates black people.
Person B hates person A because he hates black people.
I think person A tips the scale on that balance. I readily admit that I am intolerant of intolerant people. If this makes me a hell-bound #######, so be it.
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I wouldn't claim either person is going to hell, but I firmly believe that hating someone for something abhorrent that they do/say/believe isn't the least bit constructive or positive and therefore is worthless.
Why let another person impact you like that?
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03-22-2014, 08:03 PM
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#157
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Good night sweet prince
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03-23-2014, 06:16 AM
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#158
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azure
I hate to say it, but Phelps was right about Slayer when it came to their music. Most overrated band ever.
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Blasphemy. Slayer are one of the greatest metal bands ever.
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03-25-2014, 08:13 AM
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#159
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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04-07-2014, 06:03 PM
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#160
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: H-Town, Texas
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5104904.html
Thought you guys might find this as awesome as I did. Watch the video. They came out to protest the year anniversary of the tornadoes in Moore, OK and those people put up with them for less than 8 minutes before they started rushing them. Babies were killed last year, and westboro said it was 'God's wrath'- No arrests were made. Ha!
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