02-20-2014, 09:08 AM
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#141
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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Dog owner that cleans up poo from graveyard >>>>>> Dog owner that doesn't clean up poo from lawn/park/sidewalk
People who don't bother to clean up their dog's crap should be fair game for public shaming.
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02-20-2014, 09:10 AM
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#142
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by fotze
But for those actions there are already consequences, illegally park you get a ticket, almost always. Parking ticket is usually the result of misestimating an appointment or not reading a sign. Taking a full bag of McDonalds garbage and throwing it out your window is a whole new level of selfishness.
Dog crap laws are pretty much never enforced. Ever been to a dog park, absolutely disgusting. I have a dog and am hyper aware that it is my dog, no one elses. Its s^it is my problem and no one else should ever have to touch her crap.
The graveyard part of this is irrelevant to me other than negatively affecting someone else's stuff out of selfishness and laziness. It is up there with doing an illegal U-turn. It is saying "I made a mistake, I am lazy, and now all the rest of you need to do something to make this better for me, so fata you". It is out of the blue fataing with a complete stranger.
Her cleaning it up though, that goes a long way for me to the point of her photo should not have been posted. That makes her way better than a tonne of folks with dogs.
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One of my first post-high school job was doing landscape maintenance for public parks in and around Vancouver. I did it for about 4 years, including summers to pay for school. I can't count the times that I wanted to strangle dogs and their owners when I would be weed whacking and would hit a sloppy dog turd only to get dog crap all over me... including in my mouth and ears. The worst was when people put it in a bag and throw it at the edge of the park anyway. On a hot summer week, it will rot in the bag and when you hit it, it explodes everywhere.
Some people (and I would argue people with slight mental illnesses) treat their dogs like humans and honestly see so problem bringing them everywhere that humans go and don't consider their "deeds" as dirty. I don't agree with it, but I don't think they need to be made public. We do need more enforcement of animal by-laws though. Only once have I ever witnessed someone getting fined, and that was for a leash offense.
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02-20-2014, 09:13 AM
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#143
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Has lived the dream!
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Where I lay my head is home...
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^^^ Pics or it didn't happen.
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02-20-2014, 09:15 AM
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#144
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Calgary AB
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Classic CP outrage. Reminds me of the best way to return an item thread where people were basically saying the guy wasn't to be trusted in any facet of life and made him out to be a fraudster who could commit any evil.
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02-20-2014, 09:46 AM
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#145
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: On your last nerve...:D
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Originally Posted by Daradon
1. When walking a dog there is only one reason you bring a bag. If you aren't planning on picking up, you simply don't bring on, that's easier after all. You don't bring one and think, 'well, I'll use it, but only if I have to'. Sorry, that doesn't make any sense.
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I've seen it.
As to the dog parks, our local dog park actually supplies the bags. They're right at the gate and then in another couple of places in the park. People disregard them altogether and let their dogs crap everywhere. It's ridiculous. We always grab extra bags when we go, and pick up what we can find.
The kennel my kid works at is out in the country, a 15 minute drive - the dogs are walked up and down a country road, and if they take a dump, it's typically on the very side of the road, or in the ditch (the snow has filled the ditches and drifted across so the ditches are level with the road right now). They could just leave it, but even out there, they pick up after the dogs.
Aside from that, I have no other comment on the thread.
Last edited by Minnie; 02-20-2014 at 09:49 AM.
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02-20-2014, 09:50 AM
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#146
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Originally Posted by Daradon
1. When walking a dog there is only one reason you bring a bag. If you aren't planning on picking up, you simply don't bring on, that's easier after all. You don't bring one and think, 'well, I'll use it, but only if I have to'. Sorry, that doesn't make any sense.
2. Prior actions? I don't know what you mean by this. Do you mean actions captured in the pic? We don't know what she did before this day (unless I missed something).
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Have to agree with GreatWhiteEbola. Seen many people at off leash parks and green spaces carrying bags, then not using them. I like the people that have a good look around to see if anyones watching before picking up.
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02-20-2014, 10:52 AM
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#147
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Supporting Urban Sprawl
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
The worst was when people put it in a bag and throw it at the edge of the park anyway. On a hot summer week, it will rot in the bag and when you hit it, it explodes everywhere.
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This reminds me of a story that doesn't involve dog poop, but instead involved mine ... in a bag, in a hot shed for about a week.
I had actually typed up the entire story, and then in a very odd moment for me, decided that I didn't need to share so many details and deleted it.
Back on topic, I don't think it is a big stretch to think that a dog owner would leave a pile of crap sitting somewhere if they didn't have any social pressure to pick it up. If my kid (because I don't have a dog) crapped on the grass in some park, I would likely walk away quickly and pretend I didn't know what was going on.
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02-20-2014, 10:55 AM
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#148
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Where I lay my head is home...
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I dunno, we were always taught it was the right thing to do, way before there was a law. Surely there are other people like this?
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02-20-2014, 11:12 AM
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#149
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: On your last nerve...:D
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Originally Posted by Daradon
I dunno, we were always taught it was the right thing to do, way before there was a law. Surely there are other people like this?
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I think it's better than it has been, but there are always the rotten apples. If we take the dogs for a walk, we try to get them to do their business (peeing/pooping) in our own yard before we go, but it isn't always successful. We pick up after them and we make every effort to keep them from walking onto people's yards and from peeing there as well. A lot of people don't like dogs wandering onto their lawn.
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02-20-2014, 11:36 AM
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#150
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef
and it is also extremely disturbing that people think it is okay to plaster someones photo all over the internet
I haven't seen anyone really defend her, the most people are saying is she doesn't deserve to have her photo posted online.
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And just for posterity, the poster you quoted, redmiledj posted her picture on his twitter account.
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02-20-2014, 12:59 PM
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#151
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For all we know, it was her poop and the dog simply squatted down beside it in a state of confusion.
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02-20-2014, 01:40 PM
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#152
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Virginia
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Originally Posted by Huntingwhale
For all we know, it was her poop and the dog simply squatted down beside it in a state of confusion.
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You are into some weird ####, aren't you?!?
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02-20-2014, 01:48 PM
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#153
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Join Date: Apr 2003
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Originally Posted by Realtor 1
I want to know who was boss enough to have nothing but a D on their stone.
Edit: Stupid remark as I just realized the site most likely has sections and this is section D? Ive never been inside any of the larger grave sites.
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Man.....I wish you new just how hard I laughed over this one. Oh boy does my face hurt.....
Not a shot against you, I just think it would have been priceless if someone did just put up a "D" on their gravestone.
This is so going to be my dying wish. Nothing fancy, Just a "C" please.
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02-20-2014, 02:00 PM
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#154
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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What is the problem here? Seems fairly simple and straightforward.
She has her dog where dogs are not allowed and her dog is doing exactly what instigated the 'no-dogs-allowed' policy.
"We do not want dogs here because we do not want dogs crapping on people's graves."
Seems simple enough to me. She ignored this because whatever her reasons are they're more important to her than anything else.
The rest is anecdotal semantics. Whether or not you're more enlightened than to care if your grave is crapped on is irrelevant as is whether or not she cleaned it up.
"No dogs because dogs do what they've gotta do so dont bring them here." Ergo the lady is at fault.
If you've got issues with public shaming thats fine too, but dont pretend that society hasnt shamed people for poor behaviour in the past and, in many ways, she brought this on herself.
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02-20-2014, 02:03 PM
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#155
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: 127.0.0.1
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Originally Posted by GoinAllTheWay
Man.....I wish you new just how hard I laughed over this one. Oh boy does my face hurt.....
Not a shot against you, I just think it would have been priceless if someone did just put up a "D" on their gravestone.
This is so going to be my dying wish. Nothing fancy, Just a "C" please.
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maybe you pay by the letter, and they were broke.
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02-20-2014, 02:05 PM
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#156
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Not sure
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Or we found the final resting place for Dracula.
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02-20-2014, 02:30 PM
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#157
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First Line Centre
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Some posters here are nearly drowning in all the conclusions they're jumping into.
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02-20-2014, 02:51 PM
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#158
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Not sure
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So it's not Dracula's grave?
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02-20-2014, 03:21 PM
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#159
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
All it would take is one person in her inner circle to find out and gossip about it to the people who associate with her. It doesn't matter if the majority have no idea who she is. And how do you know that she felt no remorse?
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She told the guy taking the photo she knew dogs weren't allowed and didn't care.
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I think most people will agree that it was ignorant of her and at the very worst, rude and disrespectful. A public shaming on the world wide web doesn't seem like a just or measured response though. The person taking the photo should have alerted staff instead of playing vigilante hero over a dog poop. What's next... putting people's pictures on milk cartons when they break noise by-laws after midnight? Maybe make people who get parking tickets wear identifying marks on their clothing so we all know who they are?
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Public shaming was done for people who shoplifted when my parents were growing up. You got caught stealing and you had to stand outside the business with a sign saying I stole from this store. And from what they told me, it was a very effective method.
Milk cartons??? Don't be silly!
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02-20-2014, 04:25 PM
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#160
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Not sure
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Originally Posted by Dion
Public shaming was done for people who shoplifted when my parents were growing up. You got caught stealing and you had to stand outside the business with a sign saying I stole from this store. And from what they told me, it was a very effective method.
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Although the same idea, pretty sure it goes without saying the audience when posted on the web is waaaaaaaaaay bigger.
What she did was very wrong and very disrespectful. However, taking her picture and posting in on the world wide web is a punishment that far exceeds the crime. Especially in todays day and age where everyone has an opinon. People will see this, lose their s**t and take it waaaaay to far.
You can potentially ruin someone life over something like this. When you think about it that way, is this really worth ruining someones life over?
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