[News] Shane O'Brien assigned to Heat. Breen recalled.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Fair enough, I wish Kotalik had some pride...

if he did he would have retired before we traded for him

[strombad]

Originally Posted by Machiavelli

David Jones has indeed been awful, all season. Tanguay is a giant suck but I agree with moon that I'd rather have him out there. David Jones is not a player I would ever want to pay to watch.

Nah G.

[Machiavelli]

Originally Posted by strombad

Nah G.

K bro

[Drury18]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

How many NHLers demoted to the AHL terminated their contract for pride?

Sykora was the only one I can think of and that was so he could negotiate a cap friendlier deal with a playoff team as he planned to retire soon.

Souray and Redden took their lumps and took the money rather than play in the NHL.

I know some European players do it, but thats because they want to go home and/or have a richer contract waiting for them in Europe.

Gilbert Brule did it with the Coyotes a couple of weeks ago.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by moon

You think David Jones has been a good player this year?

He is awful. There is nothing to like about him or his play this year (and judging from Avs fans his play most of the time there.)

Yeah, a lot of the time he's been invisible but since coming back from his last injury, he's been driving to the net and making a difference. We'll see if he can keep it up but I'd still rather have a player who wants to be here rather than a guy who doesn't and takes everyone in the room down with him.

One of the big things with the Flames this year is how hard they work and to keep this up, they all need to buy in. Tanguay is the poster boy for not buying in. I don't hate him by any means as in the right situation, he can be effective but it sure wasn't the right situation around here.

[thymebalm]

O'Brien is likely better than both Lamb and Arsene, which puts him as 6th on the depth chart. The other bonus is that the Heat are SERIOUSLY lacking in veteran presence... he could be of benefit in that regard.

Bad year for him, and a good call by Burke to take the necessary action.

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by moon

I'll gladly take Tanguay floating around the ice and actually doing something when he tries over D. Jones all out effort with 0 results.

At this point all Jones is good for is his cap hit. The Flames would be better off having him in the PB and let a CPer take his place in the line-up. He offers nothing to this team and is awful in every game he played. Him being 3rd star last night was a joke.

Very rational, well thought out position...
[shakes head]

[Azhouse]

Tanguay completely mailed it in to end the season. He took about $20 mil out of the Flames organization and went home with his tail between his legs. No one but Colorado was taking him as well (due to Sakic taking over me thinks). He has 9 points and has played 13 games in Colorado. Let's not oversell Tangs in all of this O'Brien/ Jones mess.

[Calgary4LIfe]

There are a few things about this that I find really interesting.

Firstly, we can all guess from O'Brien's icetime that the Flames didn't think very highly of him. When Smid was acquired, Feaster made mention about not being happy with his bottom pairing, and how little ice they see. I am sure before O'Brien was placed on waivers today, that Burke has been in contact with all the other 29 teams in the NHL to see if there was any interest at all. This organization is still very tight-lipped, as I haven't ran across any O'Brien related rumors that he is available.

I am just curious to see as to what happens now. I am shocked his equipment is gone - and for me, the only logical conclusion is that the Flames know he will be claimed. Perhaps 1 or 2 of the teams told Burke that they will take him on waivers.

I see no reason why he wouldn't be the 7th defencemen on the team moving forward until his contract was up. That is a position that has no regards to ongoing development - would rather he be the 7th defencemen, rather than Breen, or anyone else that could even POTENTIALLY develop. Smith was fine as a 7th D given his age.

So, either the Flames KNOW he is gone, or he has said/done something to really piss off the management enough to make sure he is nowhere near the team. Or I am reading way too much into it.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I am sure before O'Brien was placed on waivers today, that Burke has been in contact with all the other 29 teams in the NHL to see if there was any interest at all. This organization is still very tight-lipped, as I haven't ran across any O'Brien related rumors that he is available.

Garrioch reported the Flames were shopping O'Brien back in late November.

[Rubicant]

Originally Posted by Drury18

I don't believe this would be the case as he was at a "Reading Give It A Shot" event earlier this week and called up some kid in an Oilers jersey and gave him the jersey that he was wearing and signed it. He seemed to be pretty interactive with the kids and a good ambassador.

I was actually being facetious.

[flamesfan1297]

Part of the reason that his equipment may be gone is because if he is not claimed then he will be sent down

[macrov]

Maybe cundari will come up for a bit.

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[Erick Estrada]

If you have a guy like Tangs that you want to unload badly why not just buy him out and bite the bullet if you can't find a taker that doesn't want to dump a bigger pile of garbage at your doorstep? What have the owners gained paying more money for two players that barely contribute in Jones and O'Brien. Now they are paying SOB not to play on the Flames anyway. Sarich only had one year left on his deal and I find it hard to believe there wasn't a team out there that wouldn't have move a player back in a similar situation with one year left on the deal. I just hated how the Flames took on more term and money on that deal for worse players. I just don't find that a very good hockey/business move.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by $ven27

And Jones doesn't take nights off? He's wildly inconsistent. It was a bad trade regardless, they traded us their two buyout candidates for Tangs and Sarich, pretty brutal.
And no probably not, Tanguay gets a bad rap around here. But like I've already said a 50-60 point winger at 3.5m should get more back then that. Surely there was a team in the offseason that felt they needed offence (ex:Phoenix, Nashville, maybe Minny).considering the Bouwmeester, Iginla and Regher it's not surprising on the return. However I'm not going to change your opinion, and I doubt this will change yours.

You keep saying this. But he has gotten 50 points once since the 07/08 season (and that was 3 years ago).

And I sincerely doubt he will ever get 50 again.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

If you have a guy like Tangs that you want to unload badly why not just buy him out and bite the bullet if you can't find a taker that doesn't want to dump a bigger pile of garbage at your doorstep? What have the owners gained paying more money for two players that barely contribute in Jones and O'Brien. Now they are paying SOB not to play on the Flames. Sarich only had one year left on his deal and I find it hard to believe there wasn't a team out there that wouldn't have move a player back in a similar situation with one year left on the deal. I just hated how the Flames took on more term and money on that deal for worse players. I just don't find that a very good hockey/business move.

I doubt Burke was a fan of that move

[PeteLFan]

It was a horrible trade sarich is still a serviceable NHL defenseman. David jones is borderline AHL player. If we got assets back you make the trade otherwise you buy out Tanguay.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by thymebalm

O'Brien is likely better than both Lamb and Arsene, which puts him as 6th on the depth chart. The other bonus is that the Heat are SERIOUSLY lacking in veteran presence... he could be of benefit in that regard.

Bad year for him, and a good call by Burke to take the necessary action.

He's better than any Heat defence man besides maybe Smith and Billins. There is a large gap between the nhl and ahl as we saw when Breen was up here after being raved about with the Heat.

The main problem is you don't want him taking ice time from some of the guys you are trying to develop.

[Scoreface]

The only way he doesn't play in the organization again (which I prefer), is if:

a) He is bought out
b) Sits in the pressbox the rest of the season if unclaimed (would be assigned tho I guess and I don't want him down there with the young guys taking up a spot and probably partying more)
c) Is claimed (doubtful)
d) Is traded for a bag of pucks or another bad contract

Any other options?

[Vulcan]

We could call up Cundari, as someone suggested and send SOB to the team Cundari's now playing for.