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Old 07-11-2013, 02:07 AM   #141
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Oilers need a star dman and Tim Thomas or even bryzgalov and there in playoffs
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Old 07-11-2013, 04:15 AM   #142
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MPS to a Swedish paper: "I am happy to end up in a club that is in the playoffs every year"

Woah dude. I understand that you've been playing in Oilers, but the Blues have only made the playoffs three times since the lockout-season. Missed the playoffs five teams.
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Old 07-11-2013, 06:29 AM   #143
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MPS to a Swedish paper: "I am happy to end up in a club that is in the playoffs every year"

Woah dude. I understand that you've been playing in Oilers, but the Blues have only made the playoffs three times since the lockout-season. Missed the playoffs five teams.
to be fair before they got bad for a bit there they had one of the longest playoff streaks in professional sports history and they weren't bottom feeders for all that long. Their rebuild is more what the Flames should emulate than what the Oilers have done.
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Old 07-11-2013, 06:55 AM   #144
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soft player that skates really fast but doesn't score and is easy to play against?
Guy still plays with more grit than anyone in the Oilers top six. But I won't complain about Edmonton making their team any softer! Thanks!
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Old 07-11-2013, 07:11 AM   #145
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oilers get better with this trade.

They, without a doubt, improve their top 6 and give up a player that wasn't going to be in the mix wiht their roster, and a 2nd rounder.
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Old 07-11-2013, 08:47 AM   #146
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I've seen him listed consistently at 6', but depending on the site he is anywhere from 180 - 205 lbs. Either way, from what I've seen he is not exactly soft and one-dimensional.

Really good trade from the Oilers' perspective. St. Louis gets a decent return, but it's heavily dependent on how Paajarvi responds, rebounds, and develops with the Blues.
He is Stempniak/Stajan-tough.

That would be enough on a team like the Blues but on small soft teams like the Flames and Oilers that is not near tough enough to fix their problems and make room for their truly small skilled players to succeed.

Glencross would be firmly in the Oilers top 6 if not top-3 if Lowe would have paid him an extra 50K...... an the Edmonton coaches let him off the 4th line.
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Old 07-11-2013, 09:20 AM   #147
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When he wants to Stempniak can lower the boom, he likes throwing hits like this, I saw at least 7 or 8 through the year:



One when he was in T.O.



Another hit into the boards, with the Blues here:



Another big big hit, with the Yotes against Smyth:



Another hit into the boards which seems to be where he takes advantage of players and their positions but legally. He's a good, clean hitter, much more physical than Perron:



Another big hit into the boards, right by the benches, which seems to be his spot to lower the boom:



Has fought a few times:







Even took on Carcillo lol:


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Old 07-11-2013, 09:22 AM   #148
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From behindthenet.com link

Perron's linemates in St. L. Almost impossible for him to be the biggest / toughest guy on the ice while in St. L ... that will be common for him in Edmonton.

50% of the time he was on the ice so was Backes.

DAVIDPERRON STL 684.48 48 DAVIDBACKES 49.7 ALEXPIETRANGELO 44.0 T.J.OSHIE 33.7 KEVINSHATTENKIRK 31.7 BARRETJACKMAN 31.0 PATRIKBERGLUND 29.3 ROMANPOLAK 29.3 ALEXANDERSTEEN 19.6 VLADIMIRTARASENKO 18.7 KRISRUSSELL 16.5


In the playoffs his constant linemates were Berglund and Oshie.

He will go from having Backes (6-3 221) and Berglund (6-4 217) to RNH (6-0 171) and Gagner (5-10 191) as his centres.. (stats from ESPN)

That is a significant adjustment.
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Old 07-11-2013, 09:36 AM   #149
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When he wants to Stempniak can lower the boom, he likes throwing hits like this, I saw at least 7 or 8 through the year:


Did he take a vow of non-Violence when he became a Flame?

47 hits in 47 games last year 55 hits in 61 games the year before.

On teams where he is one of the bigger guys with the ability to deliver hits.

Not once did he drop the gloves as a Flame or come close to it. I do not recall on one occasion where he stepped in and protected any one of the smaller Flames getting pushed around. The Flames goalie were being run constantly.... He never stepped up and made it clear that he and the Flames were not going to take it.

Stempniak-tough:. tough enough not to have to have someone look after him..... not near tough enough to stand up for someone else.
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Old 07-11-2013, 09:43 AM   #150
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Perron really impressed me in the St. Louis - LA series this year. He was charging the net and making things happen almost every time he was on the ice. I hate to say it but I think the Oilers got a pretty good player here, one that adds a new dimension to their top 6.
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Old 07-11-2013, 11:13 AM   #151
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Edmonton won the trade yesterday. Only time will tell who wins the trade in the end. I still think Paajarvi has upside.
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Old 07-11-2013, 11:37 AM   #152
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Edmonton won the trade yesterday. Only time will tell who wins the trade in the end. I still think Paajarvi has upside.
This is how I see it also.
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Old 07-11-2013, 11:54 AM   #153
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^^ I think it will be Perron not paajarvi that defines this for the oilers.

Oil fans should not care what happens in St. Louis. The oilers needed a solid top 6 guy for the next 3 years and neither paajarvi nor the 2nd rounder were likely to be that in that time frame. If Perron stays healthy and delivers, the trade was a success.
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If Perron can stay healthy, it will be a good pick up for the Oilers.
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Old 07-11-2013, 11:06 PM   #155
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Speaking of Stempniak, when he was traded to TO for Steen and Coliacovo, it was thought to be a huge win for TO. Today the guy who's still on the team that made the trade is Steen, and the Blues didn't move him out.

So everytime I think a team won a trade, I always go back to this deal because fit for the player can always balance things out. Stepniak never fit as well in TO and Steen became a good fit in St.Louis. Even Coliacovo was reasonable in St.Louis.
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Old 07-11-2013, 11:34 PM   #156
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Edmonton won the trade yesterday. Only time will tell who wins the trade in the end. I still think Paajarvi has upside.
The pick will probably determine who wins the deal. If it's a high 2nd rounder it could turn out to be a very, very solid player.

But right now I like it for the Oilers. Perron is better than MPS, that's why the 2nd is thrown in. Maybe MPS takes his game to another level, but if I had the choice I take Perron every day of the week.
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Old 07-11-2013, 11:37 PM   #157
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Steal for the oilers, been impressed with Mctavish's early moves so far.
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Old 07-12-2013, 06:51 PM   #158
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Did he take a vow of non-Violence when he became a Flame?

47 hits in 47 games last year 55 hits in 61 games the year before.

On teams where he is one of the bigger guys with the ability to deliver hits.

Not once did he drop the gloves as a Flame or come close to it. I do not recall on one occasion where he stepped in and protected any one of the smaller Flames getting pushed around. The Flames goalie were being run constantly.... He never stepped up and made it clear that he and the Flames were not going to take it.

Stempniak-tough:. tough enough not to have to have someone look after him..... not near tough enough to stand up for someone else.
If you watched those videos he stands up on two occasions for hits against team-mates. No one on the last 3 years of the Flames have really stood up for anyone but themselves, I mean look how many times they let teams just take liberties with Kipper with no response. It was a culture thing in that locker-room and I am hoping with all the new additions and subtractions that we see a more team atmosphere again with the Flames.
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Edmonton won the trade yesterday. Only time will tell who wins the trade in the end. I still think Paajarvi has upside.
I think Edmonton lost the trade yesterday - not because of value, but because they traded away one of their few trade pieces moving forward (attractive non-core young piece), but failed to address team needs (size up front, defence or goalie).
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