[Rumour] Roger Millions hints Cammalleri asked for trade [MRG]

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

I doubt either team would want a "do-over".

Iggy was had for a late 1st and spare parts. Pitt would make that trade any day of the week.

JBO was one of the Blues best d-man once he arrived. He played better than PIETRANGELO in the playoffs. Again a guy they got for a 1st and spare parts.

Shirley You jest

Pittsburgh was supposed to contend for the SC even without Iginla. They are in the process of imploding in the aftermath of the Iginla trade. The coach had absolutely NO, Zero nada confidence in Iginla. He basically put his career on the line by playing Cooke more than Iginla....AND then after they were spanked by Boston Shero admitted his blunder and gave Blysma a 2 year extension. Shero makes another move like he did for Iginla and it will be his job on the line.

St.L eliminated in the first round of the playoffs.... getting swept in 4 straight after winning the 1st 2.... the first win by a fluke.

in the pre-Bouwmeester era with Kris Russell and Colaiacovo getting Bouwmeester's role and minutes they blew past San Jose in the first round.

Bouwmeester might have looked like their best d-man in your eyes but point to one game where he came through and was the hero... Bouwmeester is not a difference maker in a positive manner.

His D-partner... Regehr, Butler, Gio and now Pietrangelo all under-perform playing with him.


At 6.8M/yr I wouldn't want him back on the Flames for a 4th round pick.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by flambers

Not sure... he has a ~ 6M dollar cap hit. Is he the best bargin out there?

If a team has cap space.... would he be their first choice...?

Mike would scored 13 goals last season, on pace for 20 to 25 goals.

We're not going to get the moon for Cammy. But a good smart trade for both teams is certainly do-able. Those 20-25 goals on Winnipeg would have helped get closer to or even into the playoffs last season so yeah teams I think would want him.

Ottawa could have used him badly in the playoffs.

Its a one year cap hit, not sure anyone with cap space is going to cry about it but thats just my opinion. Free agent market is weak sauce this year so any viable trade solution like prying a vet out of a rebuilding team at a decent cost will be favorable. If you were a contending team would you rather Cammy at 7 million with proven playoff scoring prowess or a guy like Hemsky or Havlat who are made of glass?

EDIT: If T.O are going to let Bozak and MacArthur walk I suppose you could swing a deal for the rights of those two for the price of Cammy as well. But we all know how trading with Toronto goes around here so yeah.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

This really stems from the whole "country club" atmosphere we had going on here. Kind of pisses me off...

No surprise the Flames enjoyed the success that they did employing quality, character players like that.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by dammage79

There are ten teams with over 18 million in cap space.

Most of which have internal budgets closer to the floor than to the cap.

Cammalleri is 31 and hasn't scored more than 50 points in a season since he was 26. He's a one-dimensional second line winger with no upside, who is overpaid by about $3 mil.

He brought back a first-rounder in a trade when he was 25 and just entering his prime. So explain to me how he's still worth a 1st rounder, six years later, when his days of 80 point seasons are long behind him.

[Sylvanfan]

I thought the most cap a team could retain in a deal was 25%? A team like Ottawa can afford a player like Cammalleri with or without the cap retention.

He might get more assets come the deadline, but if he has a limited list of teams he'll accept a trade to, do you want to be dealing with that at the deadline? Maybe a 1st round pick in the 19 range today, is better than a first in the 22 and an additional pick next year. If Ottawa would part with their top pick in this draft, it's a deal I'd explore.

[Flash Walken]

I'm not so sure ottawa can 'easily' afford cammalleri.

Budget team and Cammalleri makes 2 million more REAL dollars than Spezza next year.

[Miniac]

Cammy for Grabovski + 2nd ?

The Leafs get rid of Grabovskis salary and Flames retain zero salary for Cammy.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Miniac

Cammy for Gravovski + 2nd ?

The Leafs get rid of Grabovskis salary and Flames retain zero salary for Cammy.

No thank you. I don't want that head case near any of the young players.

[you got PHANUEFED]

Trade him and collect an other high pick.
If the Flames do collect an other pick we are sitting pretty at the draft.

[jesters91]

Originally Posted by Miniac

Cammy for Grabovski + 2nd ?

The Leafs get rid of Grabovskis salary and Flames retain zero salary for Cammy.

Grabovski is/was the make Me Laughs 3rd line center and has a cap hit of 5.5 million for 4 more seasons. I'd like the Flames to add a 2nd round pick in this years draft but no thanks if it means taking on another Leaf player, especially with that cap hit and term, that supposedly isn't well liked in the dressing room.

[Stormchaser]

I could see him in a package to move up at the deadline. I could also see him being traded for a prospect + low second.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by flambers

Not sure... he has a ~ 6M dollar cap hit. Is he the best bargin out there?

If a team has cap space.... would he be their first choice...?

Mike would scored 13 goals last season, on pace for 20 to 25 goals.

Have you looked at the UFA pool for LW? Assuming no further changes between today and July 5th, Cammalleri is a better goal scorer than any of the free agents available right now. The UFAs available are guys like Morrow, Clowe, Gagner, Penner. Filppula is likely the best pending UFA LW available and I would be shocked if the Red Wings do not announce his new contract before July 5.

I assume that a few of those players will be signed by their teams in the next few weeks, making the market even tighter and after the first couple of days of the free agent frenzy there definitely could be a market for Cammalleri to be traded to a team expecting to contend.

Also, it is very narrowminded to view Cammi's performance last season as poor. Considering we were trying to play him at Center half the time and then blew the team up at the trade deadline. 13g and 32p (best on the team) is a very respectable first line production.

Move him back to his natural position and onto a line with a player like Zetterberg or Datsuyk and I bet Cammi is back to a point per game pace.

[Miniac]

If Cammy could get Ott 1st I'd take it and run. But I would do Cammy + 3rd for Ott 1st

Not a bad forward group for the Senators.

Cammalleri - Spezza - Michalek
Conacher - Turris - Silfverberg
Latendresse - Zibanejad - Condra
Greening - Smith - Neil

[puckluck2]

Great news. Most useless player 5 on 5.

[sureLoss]

Murray won't trade his 1st for a top 6 forward:
http://www.ottawasun.com/2013/06/18/...ting-in-boston

Murray ruled out using the draft pick to get the Top 6 forward who can score. He will use the GM meeting in Boston to see what scoring forwards might be coming available with the salary cap going down. He said he has spoken to a couple of teams about forwards.

I think a more likely scenario might be Cammallerri for Silfverberg + 3rd

Silfverberg is 6'1'' 200lb LW/RW with upside.

edit: Just looked up the stats to see that Sifverberg had a great season...the flames have to add to get him.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

I think a more likely scenario might be Cammallerri for Silfverberg + 3rd

I'd do that in a heartbeat.

[mikeecho]

Originally Posted by Lanny'sDaMan

Roger is dialed right in with the Flames. I would take him as possibly one of the most credible sources when it comes to this team.

Roger is dialed in, but he also likes to take a small nugget of info and then extrapolate that nugget into massive speculation.

[jesters91]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Murray won't trade his 1st for a top 6 forward:
http://www.ottawasun.com/2013/06/18/...ting-in-boston
I think a more likely scenario might be Cammallerri for Silfverberg + 3rd

Silfverberg is 6'1'' 200lb LW/RW with upside.

Sold!!
Put pen to paper and contact the NHL office before it's too late.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

I think a more likely scenario might be Cammallerri for Silfverberg + 3rd

Silfverberg is 6'1'' 200lb LW/RW with upside.

edit: Just looked up the stats to see that Sifverberg had a great season... maybe the flames have to add to get him.

I like it. Personally I would want more out of our "only legit first line player remaining" than just a prospect and a 3rd but if that is what we came away with I wouldn't feel like we got bent over.

Ceci also has very high appeal as a right handed D. He and Monahan were teammates in 11-12 too.

[YYC in LAX]

Originally Posted by Diemenz

For free?
I would tell you what I think of this post but zukes would be all over me.

Not for free no...any pick would do.