03-31-2013, 10:48 PM
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#141
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: The centre of everything
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Table 5
Speaking of Iginla, it would be pretty neat to read his junior scouting analysis to see what scouts thought of him back then. Anyone out there have a '95 prospect issue or something by any chance?
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http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...d.php?t=516093
About 1/3 way down...click the pic...right behind Brad Church and Petr Buzek
"Sleeper pick in the first round...not likely to ever be a star" Quite an understatement with hindsight!!
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03-31-2013, 10:51 PM
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#142
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Hero
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Originally Posted by FLAMESRULE
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Apparently he was our franchise center!
whoops... read the rest of the analysis lol - he''s a RW
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03-31-2013, 10:54 PM
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#143
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dagger
Was he considered to be a high risk/high reward kind of guys? Is that how he made it to 11, when the other 5 star prospect went first?
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He might have been given that rating during the midseason prospect issue that followed that draft, and after he had been traded to Calgary. Iginla's coming out party was the 96 world Juniors.
I think he was always considered a safe pick. Knock was that he was a WHL guy, and they didn't tend to be big scorers. In those days scouting publications had a lot of guess work. A place like the Czech Republic had that new shiny feel.
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03-31-2013, 11:08 PM
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#144
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Originally Posted by FLAMESRULE
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That's awesome, thanks. Funny to see one time Flame Petr Buzek right beside him.
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03-31-2013, 11:37 PM
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#145
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Buzek ranked 14 went in the third round.
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04-01-2013, 12:08 AM
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#146
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vulcan
Buzek ranked 14 went in the third round.
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He slipped so far because he was in a very serious car accident that year and broke pretty much everything.
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04-01-2013, 10:30 AM
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#147
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: BH dungeon
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I want four first rounders. Proceed to draft Mackinnon, Rychel, Horvat, Domi. Four centres should be enough to solve our depth at centre ice
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04-01-2013, 10:37 AM
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#148
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Guelph, ON
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wronskian
I want four first rounders. Proceed to draft Mackinnon, Rychel, Horvat, Domi. Four centres should be enough to solve our depth at centre ice
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slight overkill much? Haha.
In my mind, in a perfect world, the flames pick 1st or 2nd, pick up Drouin or Jones, and then put a package together to get an 8-12 pick, and pick up one of the centermen available there, a la Lindholm or Mohanan.
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04-01-2013, 10:40 AM
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#149
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Mith
slight overkill much? Haha.
In my mind, in a perfect world, the flames pick 1st or 2nd, pick up Drouin or Jones, and then put a package together to get an 8-12 pick, and pick up one of the centermen available there, a la Lindholm or Mohanan.
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Perfect world? That's not perfect.
Perfect would be picking up another first from a bubble team, winning the lotto with that pick after they miss the playoffs, with our pick being 2nd overall already.
1st overall - Seth Jones
2nd overall - Nathan Mackinnon
...or vice versa.
Let's the chips fall where they may after that.
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04-01-2013, 11:45 AM
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#150
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Ontario
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Linus Hugosson @linushugosson 3m
Talked to an NHL Euro scout today: "If Nichushkin isn't selected either first or second overall, it's only because of the Russian factor."
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04-01-2013, 11:46 AM
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#151
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Lifetime Suspension
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Yeah that Russian looks excellent. Alot of size, speed and excellent shot. Looks a bit like Malkin in his skating.
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04-01-2013, 11:50 AM
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#152
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by Mitch
Linus Hugosson @linushugosson 3m
Talked to an NHL Euro scout today: "If Nichushkin isn't selected either first or second overall, it's only because of the Russian factor."
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I don't care how good he could be. He may only play in the KHL for all we know. Stay as far as you can unless we get another mid pick and get him in the 15-20 range.
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04-01-2013, 11:52 AM
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#153
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Lifetime Suspension
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Who is ready to step into the NHL? If we are drafting top 5 any if mackinnon drouin barkov jones NHL ready? Too me it seems like barkov and mackinnon might be the two due to age ?
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04-01-2013, 11:53 AM
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#154
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Franchise Player
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Nicushkin is a big reason why it would super to have another mid round(ish) pick.
If he were to drop I would have NO problem taking him, IF it was with their second pick in this draft.
Too risky to nab him with our own first rounder IMO.
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04-01-2013, 11:54 AM
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#155
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Guelph, ON
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Perfect world? That's not perfect.
Perfect would be picking up another first from a bubble team, winning the lotto with that pick after they miss the playoffs, with our pick being 2nd overall already.
1st overall - Seth Jones
2nd overall - Nathan Mackinnon
...or vice versa.
Let's the chips fall where they may after that.
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I guess I should have said "My tempered expectations perfect world"! But you're right, that would be ideal. Jones/Mackinnon or something like that would be completely crazy :P
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04-01-2013, 11:54 AM
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#156
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Lifetime Suspension
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I would only take him if we have 3 1st round picks, can't waste the extra on a Russian.
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04-01-2013, 11:55 AM
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#157
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Now that the Iginla drama has faded I'm really excited about the draft and to see who we get. It sounds like the Flames may finally get that centre provided they have at least a top 5 pick which it looks like may happen.
Also, for those that are commenting on Nicushkin....keep in mind that Washington selected Kuznetsov 26th overall in the 2010 draft most likely because of the Russian factor so there may be a chance the Flames could get him with their Penguins pick.
Last edited by Meelapo; 04-01-2013 at 11:58 AM.
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04-01-2013, 12:08 PM
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#158
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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In terms of NHL ready:
1. Nichushkin
2. Barkov
3. McKinnon
4. Jones
5. Drouin
Barkov and Nichushkin both play in mens leagues and have had success. Nichushkin playing in the KHL I see him being the most likley to slot in right where NHL teams would project him. Barkov could slot in with sheltered minutes and the rest may need a little longer to develop and play against some experience and size.
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04-01-2013, 12:14 PM
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#159
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Franchise Player
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Nichushkin is signed in the KHL for two more years
And someone posted taht Barkov has 2 years of military to serve - don't know if that's true, but it is standard procedure for Finns
All 5 of those players are NHL ready though
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04-01-2013, 12:15 PM
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#160
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mitch
Linus Hugosson @linushugosson 3m
Talked to an NHL Euro scout today: "If Nichushkin isn't selected either first or second overall, it's only because of the Russian factor."
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Sounds like a Feaster/Weisbroad type move, thinking outside the box.
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