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View Poll Results: Should Jay Feaster be fired?
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Yes he's the head of the hockey department
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No one of his reports are in charge of details like this
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No the offers sheet wasn't effective so no loss to the team
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03-01-2013, 11:45 AM
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#141
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
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I bet the Avs are kicking themselves for matching now, without O'reilly on the Flames, along with the associated turmoil, that 1st would have been top 3
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03-01-2013, 11:45 AM
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#142
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: DeWinton
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Still want to hear their side of the story but right now it's a big yes he should be canned.
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03-01-2013, 11:45 AM
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#143
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Lifetime Suspension
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Yeah the myth of Weisbrod is an odd concept on this board. Just what has this guy done to make people so impressed by him?
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03-01-2013, 11:46 AM
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#144
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It's not easy being green!
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: In the tubes to Vancouver Island
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I don't think the Oilers ever did something this disgraceful.
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Who is in charge of this product and why haven't they been fired yet?
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03-01-2013, 11:46 AM
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#146
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by dino7c
according to whom...a roster card with incorrect spelling of his name
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It's the translation from cryllic script to latin script that creates the incorrect spelling, if you look at the russian version it's the same way they spell his name for all the games he played.
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03-01-2013, 11:47 AM
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#147
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
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Originally Posted by Five-hole
Does it matter to anyone that apparently at least one other team (Canucks), and probably more, also missed this?
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No because it is becoming increasingly clear here Gillis is a moron
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03-01-2013, 11:47 AM
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#148
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Tinordi
Yeah the myth of Weisbrod is an odd concept on this board. Just what has this guy done to make people so impressed by him?
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He runs the scouting department. Makes some good draft recomendations.
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03-01-2013, 11:47 AM
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#149
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by kermitology
I don't think the Oilers ever did something this disgraceful.
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We are the Oilers of 06-09. There's very little differentiation.
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03-01-2013, 11:48 AM
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#150
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
Bill Daly, deputy commssioner of the NHL told TSN, today, that O'Reilly would have to clear waivers to play for Calgary. As far as the NHL is concerned he would have had to clear waivers.
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That may have been their position. Unfortunately for them, the CBA, like any other contract is open to judicial interpretation.
The position the NHL is taking is ridiculous. O'Reilly has signed an offer sheet now. Whether that offer was given by the Avs or the Flames, is of no consequence. He shouldn't have to pass through waivers with the Flames anymore than he does now.
I don't see how the NHL can take the position that the moment a player ceases to be an RFA is different depending on the team that provides the offer sheet. If the NHL forces the Avs to put him through waivers, at least their is consistency; however, that's still highway robbery for a CBA document that is misleading at best.
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03-01-2013, 11:48 AM
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#151
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Still want to hear an official statement from Daly, and Feaster on this but if this ends up being true you need to fire your general managers.
No way do you let him stay after he almost threw away a 1st, a 3rd, and $2.5 million dollars.
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03-01-2013, 11:48 AM
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#152
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dino7c
according to whom...a roster card with incorrect spelling of his name
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Yes, that's right.
On January 21st he played 19:20 in a 2-1 loss, was a -1 and 14/26 in the faceoff circle.
On the 23rd he played 15:41 in a 4-1 loss, and went 11/19 in the faceoff circle.
Last edited by malcolmk14; 03-01-2013 at 11:50 AM.
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03-01-2013, 11:48 AM
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#153
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Powerplay Quarterback
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The Calgary Flames are a dog's breakfast.
Should he go for this reason? Ultimately yes.
But what the hell is this team doing in general? It's gong show hockey.
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03-01-2013, 11:48 AM
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#154
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
And then the PA files a grievance like in the Scott Gomez situation.
You can't just force a player not to play.
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You can if he is a good guy and agrees to it. 
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03-01-2013, 11:49 AM
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#155
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: back in the 403
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Apologies if its been mentioned already, haven't read the full thread. But are we 100% sure now that this was in fact the case that he'd have to clear waivers, or did the new CBA fix that? Because the hockey beat writers on my twitter seem divided on it at the moment.
I'm really hoping so, as I've been a Feaster supporter and feel he gets dumped on too much for what is mostly Sutter's mess. But this is pretty unforgivable if true.
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03-01-2013, 11:49 AM
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#156
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Silicon Valley
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Murray Edwards is supposed to be a real hard ass that holds people accountable, right?
Wouldn't be surprised to see Feaster on his keaster after this.
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"With a coach and a player, sometimes there's just so much respect there that it's boils over"
-Taylor Hall
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03-01-2013, 11:49 AM
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#157
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Dogbert
The most important aspect of Feaster's job as general manager is to understand the legal document that sets the parameters under which he can build his team. He didn't, and in doing so, just about set this franchise back years in one day.
Factor in the fact that Feaster has a LAW DEGREE and is therefore the last GM in the league who should be caught in such a situation, and the answer should be obvious.
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It's actually baffling. The Flames would have been without a pick in the first 3 rounds of the deepest draft in nearly 10 years purely as a result of complete sloppiness from their front office.
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03-01-2013, 11:50 AM
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#158
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Philtopia
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Originally Posted by AR_Six
No, because it didn't happen. If it HAD happened, then yes. As it turns out, I actually think the result was good for any non-Colorado NW division team - that contract is terrible for the Avs and I would expect it will lead to ROR being a UFA after next season.
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To what depth's does this homerism reach here? You're trying to deflect this onto the contract structure? This is absolutely inexcusable for a team to miss.
It was a good try to improve the club but clearly one that was not looked into accordingly. The Flames just about became the biggest laughing stock in the league....which they probably already have cemented themselves now anyway.
The fact that this almost happened is enough to say that the right people are not in place in this organization plain and simple.
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03-01-2013, 11:50 AM
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#159
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kermitology
I don't think the Oilers ever did something this disgraceful.
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-Asked for money back from player in order to trade him
-Told not to send an offer sheet for Vanek because Buffalo would match, did anyways.
-Try to send an injured player in a trade (twice) as part of future considerations to LA.
-Attemped to draft an ineligble player in 2002.
That's just the admin stuff...the reason they can't get UFA's to sign is a lot more of a Kevin Lowe issue.
The Flames have a way to go to match...but this is still an embarassment.
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03-01-2013, 11:51 AM
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#160
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Franchise Player
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I just can't see how they can not fire Feaster. This is a pr mess. Firing the no name minion that might have made the initial mistake will do nothing. The team is sinking and all the flames had going into UFA to help with their mandate was that they would spend to win now. I just can't see an agent telling his client that this team is not a mess right now.
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