[News] Brian Burke Fired - Nonis hired

[EddyBeers]

Not to defend Burke too much, but the Kessel trade would not even be in the top 3 for worst trades by the Maple Leafs in the last 30 years. Kurvers for the pick that turned into Scott Niedermayer would have to be the worst trade. Second would probably be Russ Courtnall for John Kordic, third might be Rask for Raycroft. Honorable mention to the Leafs getting Cory Cross for Freddy Modin.

Kessel is likely going to be a 30+ goal man for the next 5-6 seasons, he is not exactly a terrible offensive player.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by CaramonLS

This is obviously setting up the inevitable move of promoting Pierre McGwire to GM.

PLEASE GOD!

Please.

[sureLoss]

RT @TSNBobMcKenzie: Dave Nonis is the next GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs. Unclear whether that is interim or unconditional appointment.

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Firing burke for not trading for Luongo when no trades are allowed implicates the organization in collusion and tampering.

Does no trades allowed include no discussion of trades? Maybe there was something tabled between the Canucks and the Leafs that would be called in immediately after the new CBA became effective?

Feaster was on the Fan the other day saying that he had been talking to other GMs... obviously prior to the new CBA being ratified.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

RT @TSNBobMcKenzie: Dave Nonis is the next GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs. Unclear whether that is interim or unconditional appointment.

Is that why Nonis follows Burke around? He knows eventually Burke will be fired and he get's the job.LOL

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Firing burke for not trading for Luongo when no trades are allowed implicates the organization in collusion and tampering.

What do you mean? You can't fire a GM for not making plans on making a trade? You do know the Leafs and Canucks have talked over the past year and that Leafs owners probably wanted Burke to put together a proposal and he likely disagreed. Not sure where you would come up with tampering as the way the Leafs choose to run their organizaiton has nothing to do wit collusion or tampering.

[JayP]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Dont believe it for a minute...any proof or only speculation?

Any proof this is happening in Toronto too? Why is speculation allowed to be construed as fact when it involves the Leafs (or any other team), but the same speculation in regards to our team can be simply brushed aside because we don't want to believe it?

Beyond hacking into Jay Feaster's or Brian Burke's email accounts, how does proof of ownership reaching their fingers into hockey ops come out?

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Is that why Nonis follows Burke around? He knows eventually Burke will be fired and he get's the job.LOL

Maybe. I still credid Nonis for building most of the team Gillis gets credit for.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Maybe but what changed in the past week that couldn't have been addressed over the past four months? IMO it's reasonable to expect that Luongo is involved. I expect Leafs ownership believes they are a goaltender away from making some sort of run in this 48 game season and that Burke wanted to wait out Gillis and get Luongo on his terms (no assets in return or wait him out to be UFA) and didn't want to look like a fool for going back on his principles and dealing for a contract he spoke out against.

Quite possibly.

Perhaps it wasn't something they have been sitting on for 4 months and it happened recently?

[Flames_Gimp]

Feasters replacement

[Tinordi]

Originally Posted by JayP

Any proof this is happening in Toronto too? Why is speculation allowed to be construed as fact when it involves the Leafs (or any other team), but the same speculation in regards to our team can be simply brushed aside because we don't want to believe it?

Beyond hacking into Jay Feaster's or Brian Burke's email accounts, how does proof of ownership reaching their fingers into hockey ops come out?

There's no proof, that doesn't mean there aren't indications. If there's any lesson about hockey rumours, trade rumours, etc. in the NHL is that if there's smoke there's more than likely a fire.

A number of TSN reporters have stated publicly that Flames ownership is more involved that normal in hockey decisions. Choose to believe it or not, but don't make the claim that there isn't some basis to these sentiments.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by JayP

Any proof this is happening in Toronto too? Why is speculation allowed to be construed as fact when it involves the Leafs (or any other team), but the same speculation in regards to our team can be simply brushed aside because we don't want to believe it?

Beyond hacking into Jay Feaster's or Brian Burke's email accounts, how does proof of ownership reaching their fingers into hockey ops come out?

Never said it was...read my post.

[RedMileDJ]

15 minutes until the press conference. Should be entertaining.

[Ashasx]

Any live feeds for the presser?

[HPLovecraft]

Originally Posted by Red-Mile-DJ

15 minutes until the press conference. Should be entertaining.

Or they'll just come out and say Burke has been let go, Nonis is replacing him, goodnight.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

What do you mean? You can't fire a GM for not making plans on making a trade? You do know the Leafs and Canucks have talked over the past year and that Leafs owners probably wanted Burke to put together a proposal and he likely disagreed. Not sure where you would come up with tampering as the way the Leafs choose to run their organizaiton has nothing to do wit collusion or tampering.

What I'm saying is that, if the leafs and canucks had a deal in principle done during the height of the lockout, and Burke didn't want to do the deal (that couldn't be done).

The leafs obviously cannot fire a guy for not doing a trade that can't be done, HOWEVER, if they go ahead and fire burke in the middle of the lockout for being insubordinate, it's difficult to do that without drawing eyes to the potential collusionary or tampering charges.

For instance, you ditch burke in the middle of the lockout and legions of under worked sports reporters with editors to satisfy start digging into why.

[cDnStealth]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Any live feeds for the presser?

Right here on SN:
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/maple...ss_conference/

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Maybe. I still credid Nonis for building most of the team Gillis gets credit for.

Assuming the Leafs ownership can show some patience then the teams chances just got way better, Nonis I think is a great GM.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Any live feeds for the presser?

http://www.tsn.ca/live/player.aspx#v=835987&i=835987

TSN carrying the story live.

[RedMileDJ]

Originally Posted by HPLovecraft

Or they'll just come out and say Burke has been let go, Nonis is replacing him, goodnight.

ohhh...don't ruin this for me!

Hopefully they expand on it.