Obesity

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by vektor

find something that is easy on your knee, I suggest swimming or shadow boxing while holding very lightweights (<10 lbs). If people look at you because you are obese, well screw them. Also I know many people will get mad, but I suggest smoking marijuana, it might help you shake your depression and become more active. Also, eat a big steak once a week, a lot of leafy green vegetables and take glucosamine sulfate pills. This is the best advice I can give in a very quick dose.

Good luck, you can turn your life around if you want. I was obese, no girlfriend, miserable. Changed it all, but, here's the catch, it's on you to do it. It is up to you where your life goes and blaming others or cyclically feeling self-loathing is a complete waste of time and energy. If you feel like laying on your bed and doing nothing but feeling sorry for yourself (not trying to be pejorative, I had depression too once) try eating something healthy and doing something active. Happiness and healthiness happens by building momentum, it's not a sudden change or a quick fix, happiness builds momentum when you dedicate yourself to a healthy lifestyle and you will never feel truly happy until you figure this out or completely medicate yourself with prescription pills

and f.uck bullies, there are more of us here that would stick up for you in real life than there are bullies. Don't spend 2 seconds thinking about them, if you were being cornered and made fun of in real life I'd force-ably help you as would many people here. Bullies are stupid human beings, they are like you said lesser forms, their brains aren't fully functioning.

thanks and I am working on it, I just needed to accept myself and be happy with me before I could accomplish anything because I lacked the confidence to do it.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Heard this the other day too:

America with about 6 percent of the world's population contributes to about 34 percent of weight of the world human biomass.

That's the most ######ed thing I've ever heard.
Seriously, did you even think about the math behind that?
Do you honestly believe the average american weighs 8 times more than the average person in the rest of the world?

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

That's the most ######ed thing I've ever heard.
Seriously, did you even think about the math behind that?
Do you honestly believe the average american weighs 8 times more than the average person in the rest of the world?

Gotta think about it the other way though. How many people around the world are underfed and underweight? In many parts of Africa, Asia and South America there are probably 100 underweight people for every one overweight person, whereas in America its 2 regular weight people to every 1 overweight person. So I think those numbers are not necessarily inaccurate.

[chemgear]

I think the report he's talking about is this one? I haven't looked at the numbers myself - though I believe the key is 34% of the biomass due to obesity (not 34% of all biomass).

http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2458/12/439/abstract

http://www.biomedcentral.com/content...458-12-439.pdf

North America has the highest average body mass of any continent (80.7 kg). In North America one tonne of human biomass corresponds to 12 adults. More than 70% of the North American population is overweight and biomass due to obesity is 1.2 million tonnes. North America has 6% of the world’s population but 34% of world biomass due to obesity. Asia has the lowest average body mass of any continent (57.7 kg). In Asia, one tonne of human biomass corresponds to 17 adults. Asia has 61% of the world’s population but 13% of world biomass due to obesity (449 thousand tonnes).

[Knalus]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Gotta think about it the other way though. How many people around the world are underfed and underweight? In many parts of Africa, Asia and South America there are probably 100 underweight people for every one overweight person, whereas in America its 2 regular weight people to every 1 overweight person. So I think those numbers are not necessarily inaccurate.

350 million Americans

6,688 million people. Americans represent 5% of the worlds population.

If Americans represented 34% of the worlds population weight, the rest of the world would represent 66% of the worlds population weight.

Lets pretend that the average American weighed 300 lbs. Americans weigh 105 billion pounds then. The world weight for humans would be 315 billion pounds, and the rest of the world would weigh 210 billion pounds.

That would make the average Non-American 31 pounds. That's not underweight. That's not worst-famine-in-Ethiopia-ever weight. That's a 2 year old child. The average human is not 2 years old. I'm pretty sure that the average human age could never reach 2 years old ever - it's not even a theoretically feasible number.

Those numbers ARE necessarily inaccurate. This took 5 minutes to figure out.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Gotta think about it the other way though. How many people around the world are underfed and underweight? In many parts of Africa, Asia and South America there are probably 100 underweight people for every one overweight person, whereas in America its 2 regular weight people to every 1 overweight person. So I think those numbers are not necessarily inaccurate.

Dude, they absolutely are inaccurate.
for 6% of the population to make up 34% of the mass, each one of those people in the 6% would have to weigh ~8 times what each of the other 94% of people do.

Do you honestly believe it's possible for the average American to weigh 8 times what the average person in the rest of the world weighs?

Just a quick look an Wikipeidia says the average weight for an american between 20-74 is ~182lbs (Assuming 50/50 men/women).
So for that 6%/34% stat to work, the rest of the people in the world would have to weigh ~23 lbs each.

Hell not only that, but America only makes up about 4.5% of the world population (300 Million/7 Billion).
That stat is wrong on the face, and mathmetacilly impossible.

[J pold]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

Maths and such

Just here to point out the irony of your avatar in this thread. Thanks, and have a good day.

[Regorium]

chemgear just posted the report... not sure why you're still arguing the stat is wrong. It's clearly plausible.

eg: person in US: 300 pounds, supposed to weigh 150 pounds = 150 pounds due to obesity.
person in china: 160 pounds, supposed to weigh 150 pounds = 10 pounds due to obesity.

In these two people, the US makes up 50% of the population, but 94% (150/(150+10)) of the biomass due to obesity.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by Regorium

chemgear just posted the report... not sure why you're still arguing the stat is wrong. It's clearly plausible.

eg: person in US: 300 pounds, supposed to weigh 150 pounds = 150 pounds due to obesity.
person in china: 160 pounds, supposed to weigh 150 pounds = 10 pounds due to obesity.

In these two people, the US makes up 50% of the population, but 94% (150/(150+10)) of the biomass due to obesity.

I didn't see chemgear's post as I was replying to the one above it.
That being said, what that report says is much different than what was originally stated.

North America != America
34% of biomass due to obesity != 34% of biomass

So yes, that report does make some sense, but that's not what the original post said.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by J pold

Just here to point out the irony of your avatar in this thread. Thanks, and have a good day.

I feel shame now!

[kipperfan]

What I don't understand is why the rate of obesity is so much less in Asia? You can argue some countries (Pakistan, India, China, etc.) would be low due to high poverty rates in large parts of those countries, but what about economically successful Asian nations like Japan and South Korea? How is it that those two countries can have obesity rates around 3% when Canada is at 14% and USA close to 25%? Those are huge differences and I simply don't understand why, if obesity is nothing more then an illness, or a symptom of a greater problem, so many more North American's become obese?

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/he...health-obesity

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by kipperfan

What I don't understand is why the rate of obesity is so much less in Asia? You can argue some countries (Pakistan, India, China, etc.) would be low due to high poverty rates in large parts of those countries, but what about economically successful Asian nations like Japan and South Korea? How is it that those two countries can have obesity rates around 3% when Canada is at 14% and USA close to 25%? Those are huge differences and I simply don't understand why, if obesity is nothing more then an illness, or a symptom of a greater problem, so many more North American's become obese?

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/he...health-obesity

Yeah you do, you are just being polite.

As I've said before, there is a health problem for some. But it's nowhere near the amount of people who THINK they have a problem. They just lazy.

[Stampede2TheCup]

Originally Posted by kipperfan

What I don't understand is why the rate of obesity is so much less in Asia? You can argue some countries (Pakistan, India, China, etc.) would be low due to high poverty rates in large parts of those countries, but what about economically successful Asian nations like Japan and South Korea? How is it that those two countries can have obesity rates around 3% when Canada is at 14% and USA close to 25%? Those are huge differences and I simply don't understand why, if obesity is nothing more then an illness, or a symptom of a greater problem, so many more North American's become obese?

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/he...health-obesity

The difference is from better diet and more active lifestyle (especially a lot more physical labour) but that's been changing lately as they're catching up economically.

Rapid economic development and the shift from an active, agricultural lifestyle to a sedentary, urban lifestyle are the main factors to blame for Asia's burgeoning weight problem, Mr Zimmet and Mr Gill said.

As their economies had grown, many Asian countries that were once agriculturally self-sufficient had begun importing high-fat, high-calorie foods that were never a major part of their traditional diets.

In China, for example, the per capita consumption of vegetable oil had increased from around 1 litre per year to 17 litres in the past two decades, Mr Gill said. "It's a fairly dramatic increase and with that there's got to be a lot of extra calories," he said.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006...thandwellbeing

[kipperfan]

I also found this interesting, from the 2012 OECD Obesity Update:

"Until 1980, fewer than one in ten people were obese. Since then, rates doubled or tripled and in 19 of 34 OECD countries the majority of the population is now overweight or obese. OECD projections suggest that more than two out of three people will be overweight or obese in some OECD countries by 2020."

"The latest data show a slowdown of the epidemic in several countries, with virtually stable rates in Korea, Switzerland, Italy, Hungary and England over the past ten years, and mild increases in France and Spain. However, larger increases were recorded in Ireland, Canada and United States."

"A comprehensive prevention strategy would avoid, every year, 155 000 deaths from chronic diseases in Japan, 75 000 in Italy, 70 000 in England, 55 000 in Mexico and 40 000 in Canada."

"An obese person incurs 25% higher health expenditures than a person of normal weight in any given year. Obesity is responsible for 1-3% of total health expenditures in most OECD countries (5-10% in the United States). Obese people earn up to 18% less than non-obese people."

http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/1/61/49716427.pdf

[Daradon]

America is fat.

(and yeah, Canada is second, but WAY far behind. Nearly 100%)


America is fat.

[bcsoda]

Originally Posted by kipperfan

What I don't understand is why the rate of obesity is so much less in Asia? You can argue some countries (Pakistan, India, China, etc.) would be low due to high poverty rates in large parts of those countries, but what about economically successful Asian nations like Japan and South Korea? How is it that those two countries can have obesity rates around 3% when Canada is at 14% and USA close to 25%? Those are huge differences and I simply don't understand why, if obesity is nothing more then an illness, or a symptom of a greater problem, so many more North American's become obese?

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/he...health-obesity

Just personal thoughts, I don't have any stats or reports or research to back this up, but...I've heard that Asians naturally have a smaller build than Europeans. Despite this, the same measurements and the same cut offs are used for BMI. Maybe it takes a lower weight/BMI for an Asian to be considered "overweight", but since we use standardized BMI stats it isn't going to show that.

[kipperfan]

Originally Posted by Daradon

America is fat.

(and yeah, Canada is second, but WAY far behind. Nearly 100%)


America is fat.

We're not 2nd - we're like 14th or 15th, lots of fat Euro countries too.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by kipperfan

We're not 2nd - we're like 14th or 15th, lots of fat Euro countries too.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/he...health-obesity

This site is also interesting:

http://www.forbes.com/2007/02/07/wor...orldfat_2.html

There are a lot of "islanders".

[Daradon]

Fatty fat fat fat...

(linking Bart getting teased, re season4 or something)

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Daradon

Fatty fat fat fat...

(linking Bart getting teased, re season4 or something)

dude..........that is the laziest of efforts..........