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Old 05-31-2012, 04:34 PM   #141
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They have the new trailer up

that save by brodeur is ridiculous!
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Old 06-01-2012, 07:34 AM   #142
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As for contractual accuracy, I can see there needing to be a balance between realism and complexity. For somebody who might be into a hockey managing simulator I'm sure it's obnoxious, but for somebody who just wants to play a season ultra-realism can be a serious turn-off.
As one who loves realism in this game, I find that EA Sports gives you the option to make it, but only if you're playing single player.

The sliders can be set to major extremes and you CAN eventually find a set up that actually makes sense...it just takes a while to set up to find out what is "realistic" enough for you (it took me 2-3 in-game seasons worth of testing to get down).
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Old 06-01-2012, 09:57 AM   #143
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Haters gonna hate. To call people names over their work - a job which you clearly understand very little about, is petty and childish.
Look I can get past the inability to recycle a game every year without true innovation. That's ok. I understand. But there's a lot of really lazy things in there that are done simply to cut cost and make as much profit as possible that make their games really suffer.
  • The AI in almost all their series is brutal when it comes to difficulty. EA doesn't know how to program a "smarter" ai, so they simply make it cheat by being faster than you or ridiculous goals going in that normally never would
  • NHL's stanley cup winning celebration hasn't changed in 8 years? Something like that?
  • NHL hasn't had new strategies since playstation 1
  • GM mode continues to have broken trade logic year after year after year
  • in the NCAA series, they managed to break the game so many times last year with their updates an EA employee publically admited online they weren't going to do a 4th patch (even tho it was required) because they were afraid they'd break something else. I believe programmers refer to this as "chaos coding" or something like that?
  • In Madden last year franchise was virtually unplayable because scrubs who were rated in the 70's and unemployed refused to sign for anything less than millions resulting in unrealistic salaries. Rookies were also broken, and, no name fake free agents flooded the game replacing real players

When I started the "name calling" I wasn't being over zealous for effect, I really could spend an entire day listing stupid problems they refuse to fix year after year. Not just "one-offs" either.
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Old 06-01-2012, 11:20 AM   #144
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Ok, that's cool, but you must be in the 1% of people that play that way. I would assume anyway. I think you are really looking for a different mode altogether.
It's sad, but I don't get to play too often...so when I do, I'm usually behind the current schedule.

I call it - "Too G.D. Busy Mode" mixed with I like the realism of current up-to-date rosters.
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Old 06-01-2012, 04:03 PM   #145
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I only have one question, the same question I've asked for the last decade.

Did they finally update the offensive and defensive strategies? I mean a real update, not just an increased variety.

Until "crash the net/behind the net/overload" is gone I will never even consider buying another NHL game.
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Old 06-01-2012, 04:06 PM   #146
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I only have one question, the same question I've asked for the last decade.

Did they finally update the offensive and defensive strategies? I mean a real update, not just an increased variety.

Until "crash the net/behind the net/overload" is gone I will never even consider buying another NHL game.
I believe they mentioned in the video that there are a bunch of new strategies. Can't recall the exact number though.
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  • The AI in almost all their series is brutal when it comes to difficulty. EA doesn't know how to program a "smarter" ai, so they simply make it cheat by being faster than you or ridiculous goals going in that normally never would
  • NHL's stanley cup winning celebration hasn't changed in 8 years? Something like that?
  • NHL hasn't had new strategies since playstation 1
  • GM mode continues to have broken trade logic year after year after year
  • in the NCAA series, they managed to break the game so many times last year with their updates an EA employee publically admited online they weren't going to do a 4th patch (even tho it was required) because they were afraid they'd break something else. I believe programmers refer to this as "chaos coding" or something like that?
  • In Madden last year franchise was virtually unplayable because scrubs who were rated in the 70's and unemployed refused to sign for anything less than millions resulting in unrealistic salaries. Rookies were also broken, and, no name fake free agents flooded the game replacing real players
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Now I'm nit-picking and I realize this isn't overly important but....

Technically it's only 2 years. If you look at the youtubes of it over the years the celebration does in fact get worse, but it isn't quite the same for that long. In my opinion 04 had the best one (it goes player to player and shows stats). 08 and 09 had that strange orange photo reel thing going on, and then 10 is where it started going off the rails. 10 was the REALLY bad one where it shows a montage of players (like Luongo...?) winning the cup for some damn reason. The last 2 years have been a similar video projected on the ice, but it's more of a team celebration.
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Old 06-01-2012, 04:49 PM   #148
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the team celebration is what i mean russic. its the same animation of the goaltender jumping for joy and so on. its ridiculous. its lazy.

its ea sports.
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Old 06-01-2012, 07:02 PM   #149
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Quick clip showing off new skating.

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Except people that play Madden and FIFA (to a lesser degree) also make the same complaints you are making about NHL pushing out a similar product year after year.
It probably has a lot less to do with the lazy developers, than it does the sh*tty publisher, EA (Evil Arts), putting insane timelines and limited resources towards the projects.

Hence we get the same crap each and every year.
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Old 06-02-2012, 12:38 PM   #151
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It probably has a lot less to do with the lazy developers, than it does the sh*tty publisher, EA (Evil Arts), putting insane timelines and limited resources towards the projects.

Hence we get the same crap each and every year.
Here's a link to an interesting article published in the Canadian Journal of Communications in 2006 that analyzes the "EA Spouse" incident and examines some of the working conditions/environment in Electronic Arts owned studios.

http://www.cjc-online.ca/index.php/j...view/1771/1893

I'm still not happy with the production values and the final product we are given each and every year, but it does make you sympathize with the programmers and writers that have to work under these conditions.

Having spoken with a former employee of Bioware, I can confirm that these kinds of situations are widespread throughout studios under the EA flag.
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:38 PM   #152
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total control skating really makes it seem like it'll make it really hard to be a goalie
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Old 06-02-2012, 07:12 PM   #154
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Forgot to post this. Information GM Connected and the new CPU GM AI.

30 Details You Need to Know About the Revamped GM Mode
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Where can I complain to EA? How hard is it to add a Fantasy Draft to GM Connected?

Madden had it 3 years ago. Now all my excitement about GM Connected has faded and this will turn into another failure. How is this any different than previous years leagues? They always do this, announce something awesome and then when they release "small details" it ruins everything.

F**** EA and their idiocy. This may be a bit extreme for not having a fantasy draft, but I mean how hard can it be to implement it. They give such a stupid reason "so people don't have to sit through 45 rounds". Give us the option you lazy bums, don't tell me how I want to play them game. Many people want Fantasy draft, like someone mentioned in the comments of the article, "many people enjoy having the fantasy draft".

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If only it was Steve Jobs who started EA.
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Old 06-03-2012, 01:27 AM   #157
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another example of why i hate EA.

i tried to have a fifa tourney against the CPU, but to entertain myself i took all 32 teams (all international) and would play 1st half as one team, 2nd half as another.

Nope. You can switch one time early in the game (sometimes) but once you've played a portion of the game as 1 team, that team has to have an xbox controller. Which also means no CPU vs CPU.

This is another example of EA taking things out for no other good reason than to remind people that THEY control your gaming experience and your just there for the ride and pay them their money.
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Old 06-03-2012, 02:47 AM   #158
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I'd be happy with a real life high light intro, rather than lame CGI. Similar to this;



Mind you...I'd like a lot more things before that.

As for EA in general though, I think the problem lies within the higher management. The developers themselves do quite a bit, in a short time frame. Between thinking of a new feature, then coding and implementing it. It's a lot of work in a short time. Management is the driving force pushing them to create a new game every year. And why not? They make money, so it makes sense for them.

I would be absolutely fine waiting 2 or 3 years for a completely refined NHL game. But who knows, maybe over the last couple years they have been doing that while simultaneously pumping out these CoD-esque designs in order to finance a big overhaul.

The skating does look really awesome, I admit. I can't justify paying full price for it though. NHL 12 was too much if a disappointment, so I think I'm going to wait until at least 14 before getting another one. Plus my roommate will probably buy it.
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Well, every year there are countless people who call out EA for not making a product to their liking. Not this guy, the NHL games are the best games out there so put me in the crowd that will be buying it ASAP and it looks like the best game yet.
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Forgot to post this. Information GM Connected and the new CPU GM AI.

30 Details You Need to Know About the Revamped GM Mode
The "GM Brains" sounds pretty neat. About time that EA makes these things more realistic.

As for the online mode, I have to agree with 3 Justin 3.
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