For the majority of the passengers, walking away with a full refund, a free flight home, and an additional $15,000 is a pretty good deal. I have no doubt that it was a stressful and terrifying event, but that should be more than enough compensation for escaping without injury. The American lawyers telling people to reject the offer and file individual law suits in the states is just typical of the greasy broken 'sue for everything' attitude that I hate.
That's a reasonable offer. It has a decent, conciliatory look from a public relations point of view as well.
Class Action lawyers, I think I've read, are talking about ten times that number, however.
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Many will just take it and get the incident behind them as soon as possible. Others will litigate the hell out of the company.
unfortunatly its the way most think. How can i get a free payout when nothing really happened to me thinking. It is a big part of why insurance is so high. To pay out this kind of jerks.
Unlike those people that actually suffered serious injury and loss of life.
The cruise line should offer to refund everyones tickets, air travel back plus 5% and most passengers would accept that and move on. Problem is nobody will claim any responsibilty and just have their lawyers battle it out.
unfortunatly its the way most think. How can i get a free payout when nothing really happened to me thinking. It is a big part of why insurance is so high. To pay out this kind of jerks.
Unlike those people that actually suffered serious injury and loss of life.
The cruise line should offer to refund everyones tickets, air travel back plus 5% and most passengers would accept that and move on. Problem is nobody will claim any responsibilty and just have their lawyers battle it out.
Plenty can happen to a person beyond physical injury or loss of life in an incident like this.
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Right, because the cruise line that employed a captain who repeatedly did things that put passengers in harms way should really be let off the hook here.
It's not a matter of letting Carnival off the hook. They'll be paying huge costs for deaths, injuries, the totalled ship, and their tarnished reputation. I just don't think the majority of the passengers that escaped the wreck suffered some horrible 'psychological trama' that entitles them to hundreds of thousands of dollars.
It's not a matter of letting Carnival off the hook. They'll be paying huge costs for deaths, injuries, the totalled ship, and their tarnished reputation. I just don't think the majority of the passengers that escaped the wreck suffered some horrible 'psychological trama' that entitles them to hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Guess what? You have to show proof to get compensation, that's sort of how courts work. It's not as if you file a claim for $250k and they say 'oh, well here you go'.
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Guess what? You have to show proof to get compensation, that's sort of how courts work. It's not as if you file a claim for $250k and they say 'oh, well here you go'.
Isn't a Class Action lawsuit kind of just bundling everyone's "pain" together though and not detailing individual grief?
Obviously you know more about this since it's what you do. I'm curious how evidence of individual hardship is presented in a class action.
in the past few days, companies like Royal Caribbean/Celebrity and NCL have sent out emails to their customers. the emails are from the CEO/president basically talking about how safe the industry and their company is.
i have yet to receive one of these emails from Holland America...which is also owned by parent company Carnival.
Isn't a Class Action lawsuit kind of just bundling everyone's "pain" together though and not detailing individual grief?
Obviously you know more about this since it's what you do. I'm curious how evidence of individual hardship is presented in a class action.
I don't do class action work at all, so I'm not really familiar with it. The basic idea is that you have to show that everyone in the class is similarly situated, so people with anything outside of the typical experience likely wouldn't be well served by going the class action route.
IMO the biggest reason that someone shouldn't sign a first offered settlement is that it's a first offered settlement. It's what they are comfortable giving you without any negotiation.
I also find it kind of funny how often the people who complain about going after companies in lawsuits like this wind up being the same people who want to see criminals strung up in a public square. This is how corporations are punished for their actions. You can't jail a corporation, but you can sue the crap out of it.
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in the past few days, companies like Royal Caribbean/Celebrity and NCL have sent out emails to their customers. the emails are from the CEO/president basically talking about how safe the industry and their company is.
i have yet to receive one of these emails from Holland America...which is also owned by parent company Carnival.
I received an e-mail from Holland America yesterday. Same kind of thing as what you described from the other companies.
My sister just got back from a 2 week cruise in the Caribbean and there was an incident with the ship she was on too.
It was also a ship from the Carnival line, the Liberty, a sister ship to the Concordia. The ship listed 20 degrees and then lurched back and uprighted itself again. My sister was up on a deck, having some breakfast by a pool. All the dishes, chairs etc suddenly lurched one way and then when the ship uprighted itself, it went the other way first, and water even emptied out of the pool, and got into the stairwells etc.
They were not really given any explanation at the time. There was a public announcement made that went everywhere on the ship, saying it was some malfunction that was now under control.
The rest of the cruise went without incident. However, my sister got to know one steward and he told her and her group, "malfunction my arse, we almost hit a sandbar close to the coast of Cuba."
That's creepy, We were on a Christmas cruise from Miami on the Liberty just a few weeks ago, I recognize the voice of the cruise director and the captains name, that is some scary stuff.
When you are on the ship you don't think about it but when you go out onto the walkways it can be a little humbling looking at all the water stretching out with no land in sight, especially at night when it is pitch black
Passengers on the Concordia are now being offered $14000 for the ordeal though lawyers for consumer groups are urging them not to accept the paltry compensation. http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/01...ip-passengers/
So basically the Captain crashed out doing a totally rad drifter style donut, Neat!
A 25-year-old blonde Moldovan dancer who was on board the Costa Concordia told prosecutors that she was “in love” and “a guest” of the doomed cruise ship’s captain, Italian newspapers reported on Thursday.
“Yes, it’s true. I am in love with captain (Francesco) Schettino,” Domnica Cemortan, who has joint Moldovan and Romanian citizenship, was quoted by La Stampa daily as saying to investigators looking into the January 13 tragedy.
The 52-year-old captain is married and has a daughter.
I would rather be professionally punched in the nuts for a living than be a rescue diver for an afternoon. How those people can recover bodies and not be a total psychotic wreck at the end of the day is beyond me.
Helicopters ferried food and flashlights to more than 1,000 people, including at least 13 Canadians, stuck aboard a disabled cruise ship that is being towed to the Seychelles Islands through waters prowled by pirates, officials said Tuesday.
Still, those aboard the sister ship of the vessel that capsized off Italy last month may have to spend more long, stifling nights aboard the Costa Allegra before it docks in the tropical paradise. Cruise ship company officials said the Costa Allegra could reach the main Seychelles island of Mahe by late Wednesday or early Thursday, depending on sea conditions.
On the website it says 8:00pm (28th), 1:00am (29th) and again 6:00 (4th). I don't know if those times are EST, PST, MST. But check your PVR's it's worth a watch if you want to see some videos from inside while it's happening.
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A lot of character Hemsky has shown. He could have easily got a long term UFA contract. He knows what's brewing up here and wants to be a part of it. It can be contagious.
