That's not fair, most people know two Jefferson Airplane songs!
The Jefferson Airplane deserve some respect. I guess they were two hit wonders but they were part of the new sound coming out of San Francisco. I happened to see them playing at the Richmond Community Centre (vancouver) before they became big. At about the same time I saw the Velvet Underground and Muddy Waters playing at a local dance hall. I can't remember dates much because as the saying goes, "If you remember the 60s, you weren't there", ah but it was a great era.
The 60s died too early.
The Jefferson Airplane deserve some respect. I guess they were two hit wonders but they were part of the new sound coming out of San Francisco. I happened to see them playing at the Richmond Community Centre (vancouver) before they became big. At about the same time I saw the Velvet Underground and Muddy Waters playing at a local dance hall. I can't remember dates much because as the saying goes, "If you remember the 60s, you weren't there", ah but it was a great era.
The 60s died too early.
To be fair, 'the 60s' were really about 65-73.
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[QUOTE=Yeah_Baby;3238126]To be fair, 'the 60s' were really about 65-73.
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That's what those who weren't there think but it really ended about 69 when they used the Hells Angels as security at the Altamount Concert. Not that the Angels were all to blame but the mood in the world had changed and the peaceful gatherings were over.
Hard drugs and alcohol had moved in, usurping pot and psychedelics.
The Jefferson Airplane deserve some respect. I guess they were two hit wonders but they were part of the new sound coming out of San Francisco. I happened to see them playing at the Richmond Community Centre (vancouver) before they became big. At about the same time I saw the Velvet Underground and Muddy Waters playing at a local dance hall. I can't remember dates much because as the saying goes, "If you remember the 60s, you weren't there", ah but it was a great era.
The 60s died too early.
I discovered Jefferson Airplane late in life after watching Bob Costas interview Grace Slick, and I was mesmerized by her. I bought their compilation "the worst of jefferson airplane" and enjoy almost every song on there. I'd take issue with an assertion that a band is only as good as its mainstream hits.
That's what those who weren't there think but it really ended about 69 when they used the Hells Angels as security at the Altamount Concert. Not that the Angels were all to blame but the mood in the world had changed and the peaceful gatherings were over.
This video from Altamount is notable for two things, it is the best version of my favourite Stones song, it also captures on film one of the most effed up individuals I have ever seen, and believe me I have seen some fairly effed up kids in my time, if this is your security you will have problems.
Although on this film it cuts out before the song ends, on longer versions you can here a girl scream in the crowd as a fight breaks out at the end of the song and an unfortunate black kid gets stabbed to death by the angels.
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That video reminds me of the Doors "his brain is squirming like a toad". Like i said in the edited version of my other post, too many hard drugs and alcohol had invaded the scene. Altamount was just a reflection of the loss of the innocence of the times.
Here it says is the full documentary for Gimme Shelter.
I have a question. A lot of the people acknoiwledged in this thread are from way back whenevr. When I look at footage for anything up until the late 70s early 80's there seems to still be a vintage look to it. Then once you hit the 90's the line gets fuzzy, and it kinda starts looking the same.
It may be the litre and a half of Co-Op wine talking... (Stupid girlfriend is snoring I can't sleep, so now I am drunk, smell like punched out latex fricion burnt box/latex, and Co-Op Gold private reserve 2006 Chardonnay" BUt dio you guys get worried that soon the old stuff wont look old any more? Like MC Hammer, is cheesy, but it does not have a ventage look to it. Cool Moe dee is the same. Who rememebers him?lol
A goos example is is the next generation. You watch old timey Star Trek, it does look Old timne, you watch Next gen it doesn't, but they are only really 17 years apart. Old time star trek looked old time to me when I was like 10, but now I am like 36, and it looks real old, but next gen trek looks kinda still new.
I dunno. Maybe HD will be the new black and white pilot episode with the alien brain guys in star trek with the power drill props that are chasing the guy that isn not Shantner. When we have our Virtual 3D immersing TVs HD wil look old and thge old stuff will look old again,.
WHatever.. old stuff doesn't look old anymore.
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I have a question. A lot of the people acknoiwledged in this thread are from way back whenevr. When I look at footage for anything up until the late 70s early 80's there seems to still be a vintage look to it. Then once you hit the 90's the line gets fuzzy, and it kinda starts looking the same.
It may be the litre and a half of Co-Op wine talking... (Stupid girlfriend is snoring I can't sleep, so now I am drunk, smell like punched out latex fricion burnt box/latex, and Co-Op Gold private reserve 2006 Chardonnay" BUt dio you guys get worried that soon the old stuff wont look old any more? Like MC Hammer, is cheesy, but it does not have a ventage look to it. Cool Moe dee is the same. Who rememebers him?lol
A goos example is is the next generation. You watch old timey Star Trek, it does look Old timne, you watch Next gen it doesn't, but they are only really 17 years apart. Old time star trek looked old time to me when I was like 10, but now I am like 36, and it looks real old, but next gen trek looks kinda still new.
I dunno. Maybe HD will be the new black and white pilot episode with the alien brain guys in star trek with the power drill props that are chasing the guy that isn not Shantner. When we have our Virtual 3D immersing TVs HD wil look old and thge old stuff will look old again,.
The big dividing line for me was about 54 when TV first came to my city and a little later when rock and roll came. I guess it wasn't just a change in our toys but probably a change in our thinking as well. Every generation will have it's demarcation lines I guess that won't be so visible to the older generation because they are too set in their ways to notice the difference.
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Personal bug of mine, both SRV and Bob Marley, while fine musicians were by no means innovative or brought much new to their chosen styles, Jimmie Vaughan, SRV's brother is imho a better guitarist and his work with the Fabulous Thunderbirds was far more interesting.
Not saying they were lousy, but both were listened to by an audiance that didn't have much knowledge of the music they were making and so assumed they were masters as opposed to competant workmen.
So, is that the mark of someone who died too soon? I suppose SRV's death was upsetting to me because his music is so good to listen to. I will admit I am not learned enough about blues and what SRV's impact to the trade was, but I know that I liked him.
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Bruce Lee would not have become a mythic charachter had he not died, he would have probably followed a Norris, Seagal or Van Dam career curve just because martial art films are limited in their following, and his acting chops were at best ok. Had he made Fist of Fury 2, 3, 4, and 5 we would not view him in the same hallowed light.
Someone who did die too early, Otis Redding, who while he didn't die young, did die at the peak of his artistic powers and had he lived would have altered the direction of black music in the late 60's and 70's.
I am going to disagree with you on Bruce Lee. His work as an actor was important (brought chinese martial art theatre (i.e. stars doing their own stunts), realistic style, innovative choreography, and most of all - a chinese face into the mainstream), but Bruce Lee's work was absolutely profound with respect to the world of martial arts. Norris and Segal are accomplished martial artists themselves, but neither of them were the fathers of a significant and impactful martial art in and of itself. Jeet Kune Do and it's philosophies are still revolutionary. His training regiment and physical fitness are still things of legend - he was probably one of the strongest and fastest men pound for pound on the planet. Bruce Lee was a brilliant man and without a doubt died too soon.
This video from Altamount is notable for two things, it is the best version of my favourite Stones song, it also captures on film one of the most effed up individuals I have ever seen, and believe me I have seen some fairly effed up kids in my time, if this is your security you will have problems.
Although on this film it cuts out before the song ends, on longer versions you can here a girl scream in the crowd as a fight breaks out at the end of the song and an unfortunate black kid gets stabbed to death by the angels.
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Gimme Jackie is a spoof of Gimme Shelter, the 1970 documentary of the Rolling Stones' 1969 tour
Jackie reviews footage of the events leading up to and following his free concert at Primrose Farm.
F Lee Bailey and Jackie's manager, Mel McElroy, arrange the concert. Mel has hired Shriners to do security. Jackie arrives at Primrose Ranch and declares that the concert is about "music, good weed, and some heavy duty balling." The Shriners are causing trouble, so they cut the opening act, Senor Wences, short. Jackie starts his set with "The Love Boat Theme." The crowd starts fighting with the Shriners, so Jackie stops the show and a riot breaks out. The crowd rushes the stage.
Indicted for inciting the riot, F Lee Bailey persuades Jackie to appear on Lie Detector to prove his innocence.
That's what we've been saying; nice guy, carpenter, had some good ideas. He goes from that to the Messiah and the King of the Jews. Cobain or Hendrix couldn't come close to that level of over-rated.
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I fully believe that if Cliff Burton didn't die then Metallica would have kept making good albums. His songwriting and musicianship are a big part of what made their first three albums awesome, especially Ride The Lightning and Master of Puppets.
they still make good music, Death Magnetic is awesome, I can listen to every song over and over.
That video reminds me of the Doors "his brain is squirming like a toad". Like i said in the edited version of my other post, too many hard drugs and alcohol had invaded the scene. Altamount was just a reflection of the loss of the innocence of the times.
Here it says is the full documentary for Gimme Shelter.
they still make good music, Death Magnetic is awesome, I can listen to every song over and over.
Death Magnetic is fantastic, adding Trujillo was a great move and his musicianship has added a level of bass playing they haven't had since Burton. I think it shows how much they missed that exceptional level of bass playing after Burton's death. The albums with Newsted just weren't the same.
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