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Jayems · 07-14-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by malcolmk14

I just can't wait until it's open all the way to Highway 2. I go back and forth between Westhills and Airdrie a lot and it's going to make the drive SO MUCH EASIER during rush hour.

The problem there is do you go Hwy. 1 out to Springbank and loop around, or carry on to Sarcee and up that way. I think with the ongoing construction at Crowchild and further down at Scenic Acres, you're looking at a similar time due to increased distance rather than time saved compared to Deerfoot > Glenmore > Westhills

malcolmk14 · 07-14-2009, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayems

The problem there is do you go Hwy. 1 out to Springbank and loop around, or carry on to Sarcee and up that way. I think with the ongoing construction at Crowchild and further down at Scenic Acres, you're looking at a similar time due to increased distance rather than time saved compared to Deerfoot > Glenmore > Westhills

It'll only save me time during rush hour when Deerfoot Northbound and Glenmore Westbound are freaking gong shows. Takes me upwards of 75 minutes sometimes to do it in rush hour traffic. Shouldn't take me any more than 40 on the new road.

Takes me about 35 mins to go Glenmore-Deerfoot in the middle of the night when there's no traffic.

Sarcee - #1 - Stoney is the way I'll take.

Glenmore - Deerfoot is what I currently use and it sucks during rush hour.

Arsenal14 · 07-14-2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

Yup, it sure does. Not on the north end, but the south end it does - it crosses Stoney into south Tuscany.

Right you are. I was thinking the north end of Nose Hill Drive. This ring road thing gets confusing with names (like the multiple intersections of Country Hills & Stoney or 16th Ave & Stoney).

Shazam · 07-14-2009, 02:50 PM

Hey You Need a Theed, do you know why they redid Nose Hill Drive so it didn't go down that suicide hill bisecting Silver Springs?

You Need a Thneed · 07-14-2009, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Shazam

Hey You Need a Theed, do you know why they redid Nose Hill Drive so it didn't go down that suicide hill bisecting Silver Springs?

I don't understand where you mean. And I don't think i'll know the answer even when I do understand. But, I can certainly try.

Shazam · 07-14-2009, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

I don't understand where you mean. And I don't think i'll know the answer even when I do understand. But, I can certainly try.

http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&sourc...h&z=13&iwloc=A

Nose Hill used to go straight down. And then one day they made it turn. Any idea?

habernac · 07-14-2009, 03:33 PM

I think that was to cut stop people from cutting straight through Bowness through to COP when Stoney Trail opened.

calculoso · 07-14-2009, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Shazam

http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&sourc...h&z=13&iwloc=A

Nose Hill used to go straight down. And then one day they made it turn. Any idea?

There used to be a heck of a lot of traffic that went through Bowness after turning off of 16th Ave at C.O.P.

With the school at the corner of Bowness Rd and 85th, plus the relatively inadequate bridge crossing the Bow River, plus the addition of Stoney Trail, I think they made the perfectly reasonable decision to divert the majority of traffic onto the higher capacity roads and away from the community.

You Need a Thneed · 07-14-2009, 03:37 PM

I really have no idea, was it moved when the first part of Stoney Trail went in? Perhaps they wanted a connection to Stoney Trail in the area. If that's why they did it, it probably also solved a really steep hill problem.

Shazam · 07-14-2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by calculoso

There used to be a heck of a lot of traffic that went through Bowness after turning off of 16th Ave at C.O.P.

With the school at the corner of Bowness Rd and 85th, plus the relatively inadequate bridge crossing the Bow River, plus the addition of Stoney Trail, I think they made the perfectly reasonable decision to divert the majority of traffic onto the higher capacity roads and away from the community.

Yeah, but Bowness is occupied by sub-humans, so what was the problem?

calculoso · 07-14-2009, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Shazam

Yeah, but Bowness is occupied by sub-humans, so what was the problem?

The roads don't have the ability to handle the needed capacity and it makes no sense to upgrade them with Stoney / 16th right there.

Shazam · 07-14-2009, 03:46 PM

It would've been better to simply bulldoze Bowness.

Bill Bumface · 07-14-2009, 04:10 PM

Exterminate all Bownesians.

You Need a Thneed · 07-14-2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by hulkrogan

Exterminate all Bownesians.

Someone should come up with a 15 year plan.

HotHotHeat · 07-14-2009, 04:19 PM

As a resident of Silver Springs, I also believe all of Bowness is a hell hole.

As for the bottom part of Nose Hill Drive, I always thought they made it a longer loop around so that people would be encouraged to use the new overpass instead of driving through Bowness.

SebC · 07-14-2009, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

They don't build old style cloverleaf interchanges for a reason. They create unsafe traffic flows and don't handle as much traffic before traffic comes to a standstill as these new designs.

Barlow/16th Ave is the only full cloverleaf interchange left in this city, and it only works because there's not a lot of "left turn" activity, AND the interchange is HUGE.

Wow, totally never realized that. The equivalent (traffic-light free) modern designs require a lot more over/under passes, right?

Bownesian · 07-14-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by hulkrogan

Exterminate all Bownesians.

With this kind of attitude, we should secede from the city and then when the next round of Stony Trail upgrades come through our Land, we can negotiate a deal worth 175,000 dollars per Bownesian.

Bownesian · 07-14-2009, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by HotHotHeat

As a resident of Silver Springs, I also believe all of Bowness is a hell hole.

You must be referring to West Bowness. The part east of the tracks is really a nice place to live - very affordable up to multi-million dollar homes, close to the river, half an hour by bike or a 15 minute drive to downtown. It's tough to beat.

You Need a Thneed · 07-14-2009, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SebC

Wow, totally never realized that. The equivalent (traffic-light free) modern designs require a lot more over/under passes, right?

yeah, extra structures required.

Recent example of modern, free flow in both ways interchanges:

Metis/36th street/McKnight

Stoney/Deerfoot

Stoney/16th Ave (east) - Stoney/Glenmore (east) will be very similar.

Deerfoot/22x - will be done as part of the SE ring road

Jayems · 07-14-2009, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bownesian

You must be referring to West Bowness. The part east of the tracks is really a nice place to live - very affordable up to multi-million dollar homes, close to the river, half an hour by bike or a 15 minute drive to downtown. It's tough to beat.

When I was 18, my first apartment was within stumbling distance to the Bowho. There were some good times had there. Good times. Sad to see it go. Although, not the place you really want to take your lady friend. Or eat there. Or even order a pint of draught due to sticky glasses. The pool tables were slanted, the waitresses haggard... but who the hell cared. Memories.