2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by bluejays

There are thoughts we may be nearing the peak of tv deals. That’s another topic but I think ultimately we agree to disagree. The team needs flexibility given the locking in if Huberdeau and Kadri among others. Adding another makes no sense though Lindholm is better than Kadri.

I think the core 4 of this team is Huberdeau, Kadri, Andersson, and Lindholm. Those are the guys you spend the big bucks on. Not the secondary talent the Flames tend to overpay.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I think the core 4 of this team is Huberdeau, Kadri, Andersson, and Lindholm. Those are the guys you spend the big bucks on. Not the secondary talent the Flames tend to overpay.

I disagree on that too. I’d say Huberdeau and Weegar are the only ones. Kadri they’re stuck with more or less. Andersson probably isn’t a #1 d man on most championship teams, and Lindholm we simply can’t do for the previous reasons outlined. Everyone on the team is expendable though. I’d also say Weegar is our #1 dman with Tanev close but oft injured.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by bluejays

I disagree on that too. I’d say Huberdeau and Weegar are the only ones. Kadri they’re stuck with more or less. Andersson probably isn’t a #1 d man on most championship teams, and Lindholm we simply can’t do for the previous reasons outlined. Everyone on the team is expendable though. I’d also say Weegar is our #1 dman with Tanev close but oft injured.

Hey, I appreciate the different point of view. Great discussion.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

So trading Backlund and Tanev would absolutely cripple the franchise? I disagree.

No thats not what I said.
Having LONG term contracts tied up in the following players around or over 30 would hurt: (and expensive too)

Coleman - 4.9 x 4
Huberdeau - 10.5 x 7
Kadri - 7 x 7
Lindholm - 8.5+ x 7
Weegar - 6.25 x 7
Markstrom 6 x 3

Then a supporting UFA cast of:

Toffoli
Backlund
Tanev

Its simply just keeping too many big contracts around, these guys didnt get it done and we still have no legit superstars.

You've locked up over half your cap in 6 aging players (43.15M) -
Look I like Lindholm too, but if Columbus is offering you the 3rd OA pick we'd be stupid not to take it.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Hey, I appreciate the different point of view. Great discussion.

Totally. That’s what message boards are for!

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

That is what happened with Tkachuk, age has nothing to do with it. You can admit your wrong you know?

Except I am not wrong so why would I lie?

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Lindholm is 28. Go look at up SC champs, it is littered with teams that had their key players signed to 7-8 year deals in their late 20's.

He’ll be 30 at the start of his next contract

I think that’s after they won.

You can’t have a bunch of overpaid older guys when you haven’t won nothing yet.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

He’ll be 30 at the start of his next contract

I think that’s after they won.

You can’t have a bunch of overpaid older guys when you haven’t won nothing yet.

Agreed. Just working towards being the Sharks.

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

He’ll be 30 at the start of his next contract

I think that’s after they won.

You can’t have a bunch of overpaid older guys when you haven’t won nothing yet.

No, he'll be 29 at the start of his next contract.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Spurs

Except I am not wrong so why would I lie?

Ya, the Flames totally did not sign and trade Tkachuk. It is your story, I guess you can make it up any way you like.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Ya, the Flames totally did not sign and trade Tkachuk. It is your story, I guess you can make it up any way you like.

That isn’t happening with Lindholm again they are different situations no matter how much you try to deny it.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Spurs

That isn’t happening with Lindholm again they are different situations no matter how much you try to deny it.

You said it had never happened before. There is literally no point discussing anything with you. The only thing that remotely peaks my interest is what banned poster you were before April 2023. I mean it is obvious from your short time here you are all about the troll job. I think you are going to find yourself on a lot of ignore lists.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

You said it had never happened before. There is literally no point discussing anything with you. The only thing that remotely peaks my interest is what banned poster you were before April 2023. I mean it is obvious from your short time here you are all about the troll job. I think you are going to find yourself on a lot of ignore lists.

First off who cares about ignore lists? People that brag about who is going on their ignore list or how big their ignore lists are are losers.

Second, no a trade involving 24 year old Tkachuk is not the same as trading 28 (29 when the season starts) Lindholm. They aren't comparable deals at all. You trying to make it out to be doesn't change facts.

So worry about your ignore list and make up fantasies about who is a troll, who is a returning poster but it doesn't change the fact you are wrong.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I'll take your word for it. It was reported by Russo and Duhatchek, and repeated by Friedman, but they all could have had the same wrong source.

https://flamesnation.ca/news/friedma...trade-deadline



https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2023/0...-deadline.html

I’m not saying their wrong, I just don’t think the talks ever formalized other then “Hey Elias Lindholm available? No”

I don’t think the talks ever formalized into would you take Package X or we are looking for X for Elias.

[Sandman]

THW Suggesting Lindholm to TO for an outrageous price:

https://thehockeywriters.com/maple-l...rade-partners/

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Sandman

THW Suggesting Lindholm to TO for an outrageous price:

https://thehockeywriters.com/maple-l...rade-partners/

Ya, there would be no 1st coming with either of those guys. I don't see any way the Leafs move Marner. As for Nylander is he not a winger? I like the player but we are going to need to plug that #1 C spot.

[Mr.Coffee]

Lindholm has massive value. He is a great example of where CPers are criminally underrating his value. Normally CP massively overrates a player but in this instance, with that remaining contract price and his ability / potential, like, yes- this guy should be getting a ####ing massive haul. Sorry.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Lindholm has massive value. He is a great example of where CPers are criminally underrating his value. Normally CP massively overrates a player but in this instance, with that remaining contract price and his ability / potential, like, yes- this guy should be getting a ####ing massive haul. Sorry.

I’d take him signed all day, every day at Kadri’s contract

Ugh

It’d suck to see him bolt and be left with Kadri

Kadri needs to do the right thing and waive goodbye

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I think the core 4 of this team is Huberdeau, Kadri, Andersson, and Lindholm. Those are the guys you spend the big bucks on. Not the secondary talent the Flames tend to overpay.

No successful team can have a core of over 30 guys making all the money. what happens when a young buck like say a Coronato scores 40g/80p in two years and needs a big contract?

You don't have to look very far to see what happens.

Lindholm needs to be traded and traded now

[Rutuu]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

No successful team can have a core of over 30 guys making all the money. what happens when a young buck like say a Coronato scores 40g/80p in two years and needs a big contract?

You don't have to look very far to see what happens.

Lindholm needs to be traded and traded now

Exactly what happened with Gaudreau and Tkachuk...walk themselves to UFA over an over pay of $1-2m and instead we overpay a bunch of guys that shouldve been replaced with the mid to low picks we continually trade away.