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Old 03-12-2026, 09:44 AM   #15801
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Most of those vehicles look like they are from the 50's.
Yeah I mean it frankly looks like what was rolling around Yugo in the 90's

But I'm talking about the actual landscape.

It is beaten and destroyed.

The thing of nightmares.
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Yeah I mean it frankly looks like what was rolling around Yugo in the 90's

But I'm talking about the actual landscape.

It is beaten and destroyed.

The thing of nightmares.
I know it is probably trivial compared to the human suffering that has been going on and in no way would I want to diminish that, but as a someone who is at the very least a low-key environmentalist, I can't help but think of the long term environmental impacts that happen during wars and the long term implications (both to human health and the ecosystems). Any time a vehicle blows up, a power stations or fuel depot is hit, or a factory, or a ship sinks, it would be considered a pretty big deal, but of course in a war, there isn't the luxury to do much about it. When this war is over, Ukraine will need a lot of help in that regard.
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I know it is probably trivial compared to the human suffering that has been going on and in no way would I want to diminish that, but as a someone who is at the very least a low-key environmentalist, I can't help but think of the long term environmental impacts that happen during wars and the long term implications (both to human health and the ecosystems). Any time a vehicle blows up, a power stations or fuel depot is hit, or a factory, or a ship sinks, it would be considered a pretty big deal, but of course in a war, there isn't the luxury to do much about it. When this war is over, Ukraine will need a lot of help in that regard.
Absolutely correct.

Also the mines and unexploded ordnance, hell they still find things from WW1.

That landscape is years and years away from being useable.

They are still clearing mines in Yugo which was 30 years ago.....
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