2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[traptor]

There's avenues to trade Kadri but you're not getting value back. It would probably require another cap dump player coming back or retention.

I'm sure Colorado would be interested in a 5.5m Kadri for futures considerations.

Minnesota might take Kadri if you take Parise or Sutter buyouts.

Maybe blues want to change out their D core and you get Krug.

[Harry Lime]

Lindholm for #3 came from Columbus media and not calgary.

[Flames_Gimp]

i thought Kadri and the whole team looked good at the start of last season and then everything went to poop after that Carolina OT win. I believe that is when they started tuning out Sutter and tension between Sutter and players began, and that was the start of the downward spiral. Kadri is a good player.

Let's forgot last season and start fresh.

[Geeoff]

I think you can almost consider the period before the new barn opens to be free time. So, you might as well see what Kadri and Huberdeau can do during this time instead of spending assets to get rid of them

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by traptor

Minnesota might take Kadri if you take Parise or Sutter buyouts..

Teams cannot trade bought out contracts.

[NewFan]

#3 would be great for Lindholm. And trade Toffoli for 2nd and prospect for this draft.
Backlund, Hanifin, Tanev for next year's first plus a couple prospect would help this team to do a quick rebuild.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Lindholm for #3 came from Columbus media and not calgary.

A Calgary-based member of the Athletic staff asked a Columbus-based member of the Athletic staff if he thought the #3 pick might be available. The Columbus-based reporter responded that sure, he could imagine a scenario where the Blue Jackets moved the #3 for Lindholm.

This is not a rumour. There’s no evidence at all that anyone in the Columbus organization is considering trading the #3 pick for Lindholm, or anyone else. It’s two journalists speculating about trade scenarios, the same way people in this thread speculate.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

A Calgary-based member of the Athletic staff asked a Columbus-based member of the Athletic staff if he thought the #3 pick might be available. The Columbus-based reporter responded that sure, he could imagine a scenario where the Blue Jackets moved the #3 for Lindholm.

This is not a rumour. There’s no evidence at all that anyone in the Columbus organization is considering trading the #3 pick for Lindholm, or anyone else. It’s two journalists speculating about trade scenarios, the same way people in this thread speculate.

Yeah, so crazy that this spun into not only Flames fans thinking they had a shot at the 3rd overall but trying to speculate it into our favour in trade scenarios. "Umm nuh uh, we ain't given up that guy for 3rd overall!!".

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

A Calgary-based member of the Athletic staff asked a Columbus-based member of the Athletic staff if he thought the #3 pick might be available. The Columbus-based reporter responded that sure, he could imagine a scenario where the Blue Jackets moved the #3 for Lindholm.

This is not a rumour. There’s no evidence at all that anyone in the Columbus organization is considering trading the #3 pick for Lindholm, or anyone else. It’s two journalists speculating about trade scenarios, the same way people in this thread speculate.

#3 is great and all but likely 3 years away, they have $29m locked up in Gaudreau, Laine and Werenski, I don't think they can afford to wait for Johnson to pop, after the season they just had it's apparent they need a strong center now or the fans will turn on them.

[sch19lks]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

#3 is great and all but likely 3 years away, they have $29m locked up in Gaudreau, Laine and Werenski, I don't think they can afford to wait for Johnson to pop, after the season they just had it's apparent they need a strong center now or the fans will turn on them.

#3 is likely Leo Carlsson who isn’t three years away, he’s NHL ready

[Poe969]

This team is not good enough. I don't get why people want to keep it together so bad, take the emotion out of it and just think of the on ice product. Trade who you can and build a better team with y9unger players.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Poe969

This team is not good enough. I don't get why people want to keep it together so bad, take the emotion out of it and just think of the on ice product. Trade who you can and build a better team with y9unger players.

Except ownership and management think the team is good enough so it doesn't matter what we think whatsoever.

[Flames1217]

Originally Posted by traptor

There's avenues to trade Kadri but you're not getting value back. It would probably require another cap dump player coming back or retention.

I'm sure Colorado would be interested in a 5.5m Kadri for futures considerations.

At 5.5 Kadri brings back something of value.

I think we could probably get someone like Olausson for Kadri at that level of retention.

Problem with this trade is convincing ownership that retaining 9 million dollars is what's best for the team. This is also after shipping out Sutter with 8 million on his deal, essentially shipping out 17 million of lost money in the span of a few months.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by dino7c

dude he had 87 points in 71 games...give credit where credit is due. Kadri was 5 points off the Avs scoring lead playing 4 fewer games than Rantanen

I'm would give credit where it's due but on that Avs team he's the ~6th best option. Everyone would acknowledge that. With that said he exceeded expectations for whatever reason, being in a good situation. Sure you can pick on the menial things I said but he's still not worth an iota of the contract he was given.

[dissentowner]

Kadri isn't getting traded, he wants to be in Calgary and has a NMC. Not to mention management likes him and thinks he is a key to competing. Not sure why we are talking about something that isn't realistically happening.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Depending on what happens with Backlund and Lindholm, there is a possibility this team will need Kadri to regain his form as there may be a lack of centerman.

At the very least, you need to hope Kadri bounces back under a new coach so his trade value rebounds.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

#3 is great and all but likely 3 years away, they have $29m locked up in Gaudreau, Laine and Werenski, I don't think they can afford to wait for Johnson to pop, after the season they just had it's apparent they need a strong center now or the fans will turn on them.

Even if everything you say is true there is zero reason to overpay by dealing away #3 (or Johnson) for a player they can get for less.

[Poe969]

I dont believe Kadri will be moved, the team has 2 centers that are at a crossroads. Lindholm you trade because he will want a big contract and they have enough big contracts on older players, plus he has a high trade value. Backlund has wanted out for a while, he's part of thr old core and still has a little value. They have to stop looking at older guys as the main part of the team, they need more young guys to be in important positions.

If there is a market for Tanev, trade him and get whatever. Hanifin is the tricky one. He's a legit #2 on a contender so if the Flames don't have someone better than him in the works, trade him unless he signs a sweetheart deal.

[metroneck]

I wasn’t super keen on signing Kadri, definitely wasn’t happy to give up a first to unload SM, but admittedly was blinded by the shiny new toy, and got on board.

I’m fine with keeping him, but with room for only one ‘older centre with a big contract’, I would never choose him over Lindholm.

That is what sucks about it.

[really?]

Originally Posted by Poe969

This team is not good enough. I don't get why people want to keep it together so bad, take the emotion out of it and just think of the on ice product. Trade who you can and build a better team with y9unger players.

I’m in the boat with you, but it’s hard for coaches, managers and owners to guide in turbulent waters. Entering the season without the competent core of centers places the new coach at the helm of the unknown, and resigning Lindholm provides the stability that makes a manager’s job easier, and gives immediate hope to fans that need that.

Having said that, there is no scenario where signing Lindholm to an 8 year contract ends any way other than poorly. The Flames would have 3 30 year old plus players locked into anchor deals which would return little in return were the Flames trying to move them. That’s seven years of diminishing returns in a league where teams are starting to accumulate and sign guys in their early/mid 20s to these type of deals. This is a sure way to stay near the middle for 3-4 years and then finally bottom out. By then some of the guys who are young now, will be looking for the exit and the next manager will be tasked with another clean up.

Conroy has his chance right now. If he doesn’t trade Lindholm this summer he’s probably dunked down the road. He’ll be chasing just like Treliving was, and the contracts he has on the ledger won’t allow him to acquire assets to build. They aren’t getting the 3rd overall for Lindholm, but I’m sure there are good deals to be had. If it’s true that Lindholm wants to win a cup (and I trust that is true) he would be walking to free agency, anyway. Tough call, but that comes with the job.