2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[DJones]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Who had a low that you think will bounce back? Kadri had a career high in goals at 34 is that something we should continue to expect?

Seems like this team is going to need Frost, Farabee, Sharangovich to have near career years to ensure this team stays on track.

For me I wonder if this team can play with the same level of intensity as they did all of last year especially if they get off to a rocky start. I feel like last year’s strong start allowed them to remain competitive and then make a push late that was unfortunately not enough to beat the streak the Blues were on.

Coleman, Frost, Farabee, Sharangovich. Yes, any one of them could see massive improvement from this year.

Zary, Pospisil, Klapka, Coronato should all improvement naturally. A upgrade at 4C would help a lot as well.

Shooting percentage is the most variable and luck based thing there is in hockey. Same team can be dead last and shoot up to top 10 the next year. That, PK, and PP all just reverting to the mean of luck will offset what, an extra 10 goals by Kadri? Maybe we won't be able to keep the same intensity but honestly I think the team was unlucky last year.

[shutout]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

All of this has happened before, all of this will happen again.

Folks wanted to trade Iggy.

And we should have traded Iginla.
If the rumours were correct that the Flames had a chance to get Carter and Richards in a deal for Iginla than they were stupid not to have taken the deal.

[PepsiFree]

Flames didn’t have a particularly great start to the year last year.

Here’s the breakdown of 10 game stretches:
5-4-1
6-2-2
3-5-2
5-3-2
6-4-0
3-5-2
6-2-2
7-2-3 (last 12)

Frost and Farabee, while below average offensively, clearly helped the mix. If they get back to average we’re looking at a boost. That last 22 games where the Flames went 12-4-5 also includes a 10 game stretch where Wolf was playing below average (his own and for NHL starters in general) for 8 games (7 where he failed to crack .900).

Wolf had a great rookie season, but it was also the worst full season he’s had in any league since his first in the CHL. So I think the chances of him improving on it are very, very high.

I think there’s huge reason for optimism. Add in what could be with Parekh along with the possibility of adding another top 4 D and possibly a guy like Rossi, and the gains could be big. Not to mention the benefits it might add to a guy like Huberdeau or a full season of Zary.

Anything could derail it, but the Flames do not need anything close to a miracle to make big gains.

[shutout]

If you are really on team tank than you have to be looking at trading Wolf.

Move him for #4 to Utah or #6 to Philadelphia.
Pick the center prospect available at that spot either Frondell or Desnoyers.

Than with the Flames pick at #18 you draft Ravensbergen.

You get your goalie of the future and your #1 center.

Keeping Wolf means not tanking and building the team piece by piece by incrementally improving the talent with each trade, signing, or draft pick.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by shutout

If you are really on team tank than you have to be looking at trading Wolf.

Move him for #4 to Utah or #6 to Philadelphia.
Pick the center prospect available at that spot either Frondell or Desnoyers.

Than with the Flames pick at #18 you draft Ravensbergen.

You get your goalie of the future and your #1 center.

Keeping Wolf means not tanking and building the team piece by piece by incrementally improving the talent with each trade, signing, or draft pick.

And if Ravensbergen flames out, as the odds suggest he will?

And that #1 center is just as likely not to be a #1 centre.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by shutout

And we should have traded Iginla.
If the rumours were correct that the Flames had a chance to get Carter and Richards in a deal for Iginla than they were stupid not to have taken the deal.

When we get McKenna we should totally trade him before he turns 26 to maximize asset value. Go Assets Go!

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by shutout

If you are really on team tank than you have to be looking at trading Wolf.

Move him for #4 to Utah or #6 to Philadelphia.
Pick the center prospect available at that spot either Frondell or Desnoyers.

Than with the Flames pick at #18 you draft Ravensbergen.

You get your goalie of the future and your #1 center.

Keeping Wolf means not tanking and building the team piece by piece by incrementally improving the talent with each trade, signing, or draft pick.

Nope, that's a false equivalency. Plenty of good to great goalies have had bad seasons, or are not enough to overcome a ####ty team. See; John Gibson, Carey Price, Hellebuyck.

The right move is to keep Wolf as happy as possible. We should have been building this year to ensure the development curve of future center matches up with his later 20s early 30s prime, but we can still try to make it work over the coming years. Has to happen in the next two or I will join the trade Wolf team.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by shutout

And we should have traded Iginla.
If the rumours were correct that the Flames had a chance to get Carter and Richards in a deal for Iginla than they were stupid not to have taken the deal.

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

When we get McKenna we should totally trade him before he turns 26 to maximize asset value. Go Assets Go!

Well the trade Iginla thing all comes down to timing because Iginla was traded, he just wasn't traded for a great return due to his contract expiring and his NMC.

Iginla probably could have been traded a season or two earlier once the team was floundering out of the playoffs for a couple seasons by that time already and hadn't won a series post lockout.

I can't recall when the Carter/Richards thing was rumoured but if it was 2011 and Iggy was already 33 then 100% that trade should have happened.

But to trade Iginla before the 2010 off-season would have been crazy. I feel like the 2010 offseason after the Flames lost in round 1 four straight seasons, then followed it up by missing the playoffs, and traded Phaneuf for a grab bag of nothing...that's when serious discussions about trading Iginla and Kipper should have started.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by shutout

If you are really on team tank than you have to be looking at trading Wolf.

Move him for #4 to Utah or #6 to Philadelphia.
Pick the center prospect available at that spot either Frondell or Desnoyers.

Than with the Flames pick at #18 you draft Ravensbergen.

You get your goalie of the future and your #1 center.

Keeping Wolf means not tanking and building the team piece by piece by incrementally improving the talent with each trade, signing, or draft pick.

Agreed. The frustrating thing is that Calgary is at a huge disadvantage for making trades and signings. The only way to negate that is to have elite young talent that helps persuade good players to waive their movement clauses or sign contracts. The only reason why Edmonton has been able to attract talent and convince them to stay is because they have McDavid. Until then, the best tool the Flames have is the draft and being able to land a top 3 talent or two in the next few years would sure go a long way to help convince other players to come or stay.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Flames didn’t have a particularly great start to the year last year.

Here’s the breakdown of 10 game stretches:
5-4-1
6-2-2
3-5-2
5-3-2
6-4-0
3-5-2
6-2-2
7-2-3 (last 12)

Frost and Farabee, while below average offensively, clearly helped the mix. If they get back to average we’re looking at a boost. That last 22 games where the Flames went 12-4-5 also includes a 10 game stretch where Wolf was playing below average (his own and for NHL starters in general) for 8 games (7 where he failed to crack .900).

Wolf had a great rookie season, but it was also the worst full season he’s had in any league since his first in the CHL. So I think the chances of him improving on it are very, very high.

I think there’s huge reason for optimism. Add in what could be with Parekh along with the possibility of adding another top 4 D and possibly a guy like Rossi, and the gains could be big. Not to mention the benefits it might add to a guy like Huberdeau or a full season of Zary.

Anything could derail it, but the Flames do not need anything close to a miracle to make big gains.

Didn’t the Flames have their best start in a considerable amount of time if you cut the sample size down to 5 games? It felt like the flames were always 4-7 games over .500 and that hot start was key. Obviously they went on a tear after the deadline that allowed them to really push but their first 5 games and ultimately 1st and last quarter of the season is why they were in the race all year.

[InternationalVillager]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Flames didn’t have a particularly great start to the year last year.

Here’s the breakdown of 10 game stretches:
5-4-1
6-2-2
3-5-2
5-3-2
6-4-0
3-5-2
6-2-2
7-2-3 (last 12)

Frost and Farabee, while below average offensively, clearly helped the mix. If they get back to average we’re looking at a boost. That last 22 games where the Flames went 12-4-5 also includes a 10 game stretch where Wolf was playing below average (his own and for NHL starters in general) for 8 games (7 where he failed to crack .900).

Wolf had a great rookie season, but it was also the worst full season he’s had in any league since his first in the CHL. So I think the chances of him improving on it are very, very high.

I think there’s huge reason for optimism. Add in what could be with Parekh along with the possibility of adding another top 4 D and possibly a guy like Rossi, and the gains could be big. Not to mention the benefits it might add to a guy like Huberdeau or a full season of Zary.

Anything could derail it, but the Flames do not need anything close to a miracle to make big gains.

I do think Huberdeau has another level to his game that he can reach. And that level is going to be unlocked by a complimentary Center that the Flames will have to provide him with.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

The Flames were quite fortunate when it came to injuries last season. Of their top nine players, only Zary missed considerable time (and he’s on the fringes of the top 9), while Backlund and Andersson was at less than 100 per cent for a good chunk of the season. Which isn’t bad by NHL standards.

Looking at other teams we were competing with in the middle of the pack:

* Blues lost Thomas for 12, Parayko for 18, and Fowler for 31.

* Wild lost Kaprizov for 41, Spurgeon for 16, Brodin for 32, and Eriksson Ek for 36.

* Canucks lost Hughes for 14 (and he wasn’t close to 100 per cent for most of the rest), Hronek for 21, Pettersson for 18, and Demko for most of the season.

* Devils lost Hughes for 20 games and Hamilton for 21.


A significant injury to Weegar, Kadri, or Wolf would likely be enough to derail next season.

Mantha was a pretty big loss

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Well the trade Iginla thing all comes down to timing because Iginla was traded, he just wasn't traded for a great return due to his contract expiring and his NMC.

Iginla probably could have been traded a season or two earlier once the team was floundering out of the playoffs for a couple seasons by that time already and hadn't won a series post lockout.

Yeah, I thought it was pretty much accepted among fans that the Flames waited too long to trade Iginla. I’m surprised there are people who even in hindsight are happy the Flames got a couple more non-playoff seasons with him on the roster rather than major rebuilding assets.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Agreed. The frustrating thing is that Calgary is at a huge disadvantage for making trades and signings. The only way to negate that is to have elite young talent that helps persuade good players to waive their movement clauses or sign contracts. The only reason why Edmonton has been able to attract talent and convince them to stay is because they have McDavid. Until then, the best tool the Flames have is the draft and being able to land a top 3 talent or two in the next few years would sure go a long way to help convince other players to come or stay.

This is often overlooked. Elite players not only give you elite play, they give you a competitive advantage in attracting more talent via trades and free agency.

[Sec214]

The best of CP from April till end of June, always in this thread.

[robertsfanatic]

When Ras is traded, how about an offer sheet to Nic Hague for the $4.55 that he was making? Give up a second for a monster LHS.

[shutout]

Originally Posted by Sec214

The best of CP from April till end of June, always in this thread.

Of course you could help make it better and provide an update on how strongly are the Flames trying to pursue Rossi and what they might realistically give up to get him.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by robertsfanatic

When Ras is traded, how about an offer sheet to Nic Hague for the $4.55 that he was making? Give up a second for a monster LHS.

Gotta think it'd get matched, but I dont hate that idea at all

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[traptor]

Robertson is interesting. Only 25 and multi 40goal season + 109 pt season.
I'm sure the Flames would be interested, but it would essentially be mortgaging our future to get him, and I'm not sure he's the player you want to do that for.


Feels like a Utah player for some reason to me if he actually got traded.

Originally Posted by robertsfanatic

When Ras is traded, how about an offer sheet to Nic Hague for the $4.55 that he was making? Give up a second for a monster LHS.

Hague would be a great pickup. They might need to move out money if they're going after Marner.