[GDT] Canada vs USA - Gold Medal Game - Men’s Hockey

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Looch City

Agreed.

My biggest pet peeve is athletes weighing into politics.

Just shoot the puck and stfu.

Which jobs are allowed to have opinions and express them? I want to make sure I stick with those.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Coach

Which jobs are allowed to have opinions and express them? I want to make sure I stick with those.

Definitely not Internet message board contributor. No opinions allowed.

[powderjunkie]

Jesus Christ, I just watched the replay from the angle behind Canada's net - McDavid takes two strides as he crosses the US blue line and then only takes two little half strides the rest of the play.

Makar has an awkward spin making the pinch so he loses all momentum; he takes some hard strides but stops skating when it looks like MacKinnon has the puck tied up.

Unacceptable from both, but I think it speaks to the 'Big Line' mentality the team developed. Zero reason to not go full burn in sudden death 3v3 with the depth of that bench.

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Definitely not Internet message board contributor. No opinions allowed.

Actually it's kinda hilarious the difference in opinions on FOI vs OT threads.

It's like stepping back in time lol. What year is it??

[Looch City]

Also, the game is over. We lost.

So what if some politics come up? It's two nations versus each other amidst political heat the past 1.5 years (unless you've been living under a rock).

Pull yourselves up by the bootstraps and deal with it!

[Beninho]

Tkachuk really has gotten all the bounces and luck since leaving the Flames. Never had that sort of luck in Calgary outside of game 7 vs Dallas. He was pretty unnoticeable today as were most of the American forwards but still gets it done.

McDavid should not be captain in 2030 and if he doesn’t get better on the dot and in his own end he should be used as a winger. The composure went out the window for him today in another do or die game.

Another reminder with how spoiled Canada was with having prime Crosby leading the way. Just an absolute warrior and leader that Canada missed immensely today.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by zuluking

I don't understand this "well, Celebrini..." comment. Celebrini does NOT try to go 1-3. He carries the puck in the zone, nothing there, leaves the zone, enters again, cycles with his linemates and get a shot off from the middle of the ice trying to use a couple US defenders as a screen. Helllybuck makes the save and US gains possession, but no danger and easy to defend. It was a really smart shift with everyone supporting each other.

He made the right play every time in OT:

- Exited zone to keep possession as Horvat went off on change
- Didn't force anything as he handled a zone entry
- the shot attempt totally made sense (though it turns out Toews was open for a pass)
- Turned back again after a poor entry and went off for a change

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by Coach

Which jobs are allowed to have opinions and express them? I want to make sure I stick with those.

Musicians, but only Kid Rock.
Comedians, but only Joe Rogan.
Hockey players can too, but only the Tkachuks or Gretzky with his Maga hats.
Any jobs speaking I'll of the president are off limits.
Oh, and the president can talk about Canadian hockey, just not vice versa.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Leaning on the McLine makes less sense on a team of superstars. You assemble all world talent so you don't need to use oilers bench tactics.

With how much those guys were gripping it i'd have given some other combos more looks. Or spread them out and paired them with a reliable 200 foot guy.

Like Hagel and Jarvis looked really good today, and they weren't phoning in the back check.

Live by McDavid, die by McDavid, I guess.

[lazypucker]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Leaning on the McLine makes less sense on a team of superstars. You assemble all world talent so you don't need to use oilers bench tactics.

With how much those guys were gripping it i'd have given some other combos more looks. Or spread them out and paired them with a reliable 200 foot guy.

Like Hagel and Jarvis looked really good today, and they weren't phoning in the back check.

Live by McDavid, die by McDavid, I guess.

That's exactly I don't want Team Canada for the next 10 years to turn into the Edmonton Oilers with just McDavid and a bunch of whatevers that are underutilized.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Leaning on the McLine makes less sense on a team of superstars. You assemble all world talent so you don't need to use oilers bench tactics.

With how much those guys were gripping it i'd have given some other combos more looks. Or spread them out and paired them with a reliable 200 foot guy.

Like Hagel and Jarvis looked really good today, and they weren't phoning in the back check.

Live by McDavid, die by McDavid, I guess.

A blessing and a curse when it comes to coaches with mcdavid I think. You have this nuclear weapon who is visibly so much better than anyone else.

It’s not just an Oilers thing, clearly. The best players in the world at his disposal and Cooper did the exact same thing.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

I find that 3 on 3 is the worst way to decide a game of any significance, I assume it is to ensure that there isn’t a really long overtime game that impacts the other games but it is more of a coin flip than anything, especially when you have a group of players who haven’t really gelled or played systems before.

[renny]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

I find that 3 on 3 is the worst way to decide a game of any significance, I assume it is to ensure that there isn’t a really long overtime game that impacts the other games but it is more of a coin flip than anything, especially when you have a group of players who haven’t really gelled or played systems before.

It sucks, but it's better than the shootout.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Yeah it’s fine for the NHL regular season because if the alternative is a shootout then sure let’s have 3 on 3 because it’s basically one notch above a shootout in terms of a stupid gimmick.

To decide the most important international hockey game in the last decade is an absolute travesty.

I can’t believe the nhl actually agreed to that. I don’t even know why it was ever changed from 4 on 4. And even that was kind of stupid.

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

I find that 3 on 3 is the worst way to decide a game of any significance, I assume it is to ensure that there isn’t a really long overtime game that impacts the other games but it is more of a coin flip than anything, especially when you have a group of players who haven’t really gelled or played systems before.

It's bad. But it's bad equally for both teams and hell of a lot better than a shootout.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Saqe

It's bad. But it's bad equally for both teams and hell of a lot better than a shootout.

Does being equally bad for both teams have any significance whatsoever? Isn’t any solution equally bad for both teams? They could flip a coin and it would be equally bad for both team teams.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by Acey

This picture is the whole olympics for me. I was sitting in an uber on my way home today when I checked this thread, and that picture of Gaudreaus daughter completely destroyed me. Having two daughters of my own around that age certainly makes it hit harder, but there was no way I could explain to the uber driver why I was such a blubbering mess as I exited his car. Losing in the gold medal game ####ing sucks, but if this result gives even the slightest bit of comfort to the Gaudreaus family then I'm fine with how things unfolded. This is their medal and I don't give a #### about any other conversation on the matter

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

A blessing and a curse when it comes to coaches with mcdavid I think. You have this nuclear weapon who is visibly so much better than anyone else.

It’s not just an Oilers thing, clearly. The best players in the world at his disposal and Cooper did the exact same thing.

And thats why he failed.

No "Mc" in team.

It made sense on other days/games but he wasn't really going today so not sure leaning on him made sense.

You could tell when he charged straight down the middle and left the puck behind him that you weren't getting reliable Connor in that overtime.

Goes for mackinnon too. He looked off the whole game.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Leaning on the McLine makes less sense on a team of superstars. You assemble all world talent so you don't need to use oilers bench tactics.

With how much those guys were gripping it i'd have given some other combos more looks. Or spread them out and paired them with a reliable 200 foot guy.

Like Hagel and Jarvis looked really good today, and they weren't phoning in the back check.

Live by McDavid, die by McDavid, I guess.

100%. I think the coaching failure here was [seemingly] not treating them like a junior team and demanding 100% effort on backchecks once we were in sudden death.

There is drop off from the top guys, but there's still another dozen on the roster who you can trust out there for 3v3.

[sharkov]

I blame Tate McRae, she was supposed to break up with Jack Hughes as overtime was starting to prevent USA from winning