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Old 10-07-2014, 11:30 AM   #1541
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Well that's that. I think hmmhmmcamo has to be next. When he did decide to post, he was just trying to keep attention on Matt. Not much else to go on, we need to see what day 3 brings

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Old 10-07-2014, 11:31 AM   #1542
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I can be hammer vote if you guys like so we don't hammer before we are ready?
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Old 10-07-2014, 11:42 AM   #1543
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With Wood, that's 7. Make sure we let hmmhmmm make a last post too.

I can offer to be the hammer as well.
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Old 10-07-2014, 11:44 AM   #1544
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With Wood, that's 7. Make sure we let hmmhmmm make a last post too.

I can offer to be the hammer as well.
I agree he should be given the chance to post, but I am not expecting much given his participation so far.
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Old 10-07-2014, 11:46 AM   #1545
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Make sure you give him a chance to post, though before you drop hammer
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Old 10-07-2014, 11:49 AM   #1546
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I'm ready to go. I'm not sure how to dig myself out of this hole I'm in and there doesn't seem to be anyone else that the town is focusing on right now.

Matt and I are/were definitely the biggest distractions right now so I think once we're gone the town can refocus and try to find some actual mafia.

I'm just in between meetings right now but I'll be back later.
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Old 10-07-2014, 11:52 AM   #1547
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Well, it was fun while it lasted but I think it was my time to die.
My biggest regret is not posting this picture with my lynchproof reveal.



I wanted to, but the quote didn't work out very well for the first guy either so it seemed too ominous.

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Old 10-07-2014, 11:53 AM   #1548
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Before we get to far on mmmmhmmm how are we going to handle his role claim? He has set up his posts to claim cop at the deadline. If we get him to 9 and he does what is the plan.

Again I am going to defend the guy we are about to lynch but I currently believe his townie with a power role type behaviour. Its very possible I am getting suckered in here but if he does reveal a power role what's the plan.
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Old 10-07-2014, 11:57 AM   #1549
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I might be a sucker but hmmhmmcamo has me convinced.

Squiggs96, Aeneas (through Baxter) and hmmhmmcamo are all in similar positions. hmmhmmcamo has alluded to having powers that are worth keeping around. Squiggs96 is isn't invisible, I see how often he's reading the thread and it's not indicative of how often he posts. Aeneas is a wildcard.

I'd prefer Squiggs96 or Aeneas to hmmhmmcamo.

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Old 10-07-2014, 12:01 PM   #1550
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Before we get to far on mmmmhmmm how are we going to handle his role claim? He has set up his posts to claim cop at the deadline. If we get him to 9 and he does what is the plan.

Again I am going to defend the guy we are about to lynch but I currently believe his townie with a power role type behaviour. Its very possible I am getting suckered in here but if he does reveal a power role what's the plan.
Ask yourself these questions:

Is he productive as a townie, not counting any role/power?

Given how useful he is being, is his role worth keeping if he is telling the truth?

Who else do we have any solid ideas on at this point? Are they a better or worse choice than hmmhmmcamo, given the previous 2 answers?

Keep in mind, it is Day 2, and we don't really know anything yet. This is a problem, but not one that is unexpected really. You have so little to go on the first couple days and the Eternals/Guardians thing really just threw a huge wrench in things.
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Old 10-07-2014, 12:03 PM   #1551
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I might be a sucker but hmmhmmcamo has me convinced.

Squiggs96, Aeneas (through Baxter) and hmmhmmcamo are all in similar positions. hmmhmmcamo has alluded to having powers that are worth keeping around. Squiggs96 is isn't invisible, I see how often he's reading the thread and it's not indicative of how often he posts. Aeneas is a wildcard.

I'd prefer Squiggs96 or Aeneas to hmmhmmcamo.

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You know what, I was just thinking that as well. At least hmmhmmcamo is contributing to the game, squiggs was suspicious from Day 1, is not adding much to the game, and I know he is trying to roleplay when he does post but I find it annoying when he posts about Chu. I would be down for a squiggs lynch or if the majority want to still lynch hmmhmmcamo I can roll with that too. If I had to pick though personally it would be squiggs.
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Old 10-07-2014, 12:09 PM   #1552
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I have no idea right now. Was hmmhmmcamo playing like he did to protect his power?
It explains some of the suspicions I have against him.

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Old 10-07-2014, 12:10 PM   #1553
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GP Matt would probably been night killed by mafia since they knew who he was
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Old 10-07-2014, 12:16 PM   #1554
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I can do sqiggs too. Him, hmhhmhhmhmhmhmh and Anus are all interchangeable for me. I think I'd like to give Aeneas a chance to contribute though
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Old 10-07-2014, 12:20 PM   #1555
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I perfer squiggs over hmmm
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Old 10-07-2014, 12:22 PM   #1556
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We are becoming predictable. I figured you would respond noting that my post eliminates me from suspicion. I fully acknowledge it does and that was not the point of it.

I think you are missing what I am trying to say though. I wasn't looking for the bottom 3 posters or voters. I was looking for posting habits vs voting habits. To me it makes sense that an active poster is an active voter and vice versa. So who is an active poster and an inactive voter? I looked at the delta between post position and vote position.

Of the three you listed 1 was already in my list and the others have a delta of 1 so weren't included.
Rathji is 16 in votes and 17th so delta is one
Hmm is 17 in votes 16 in posts so delta is one
HG was on my original vote list.

The number in the first column is your list of votes including unvotes put into order (thanks for digging this out). The number in second column is the post order. I was looking at who had a high delta in number of posts and identified them.

Hg- 5
Drury 5
Girly 8
puxlut 6
Did you take into account when calculating delta that some vote numbers have a tie so "placement" isn't a cut and dry 1-22? If Rathi and hmmhmmcamo both have 4 votes, they can't be 16th and 17th place, they are in the same place for votes.

I don't think Delta is the most effective way to determine position. I get the theory you are trying to get at (granted standard deviation might have been the route I went to get results), but I think because you've placed votes cast as a 1-22, you are getting placement numbers that aren't reflective of the fact a number of people are at the same vote total. You are 1, Oiling_Roachman and starseed are both 2.
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Old 10-07-2014, 12:31 PM   #1557
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Did you take into account when calculating delta that some vote numbers have a tie so "placement" isn't a cut and dry 1-22? If Rathi and hmmhmmcamo both have 4 votes, they can't be 16th and 17th place, they are in the same place for votes.

I don't think Delta is the most effective way to determine position. I get the theory you are trying to get at (granted standard deviation might have been the route I went to get results), but I think because you've placed votes cast as a 1-22, you are getting placement numbers that aren't reflective of the fact a number of people are at the same vote total. You are 1, Oiling_Roachman and starseed are both 2.
I did look briefly at that. It doesnt really effect the big 4 discrepancy though. I don't thibk you have enough data to do a reliable standard deviation though i might punch it all into a spreadsheet tonight to see if it makes a difference. You also have same issue with posts as there is a pack between 55-70 that was tightly packed.

It isnt proof of anything right now but everyone who votes always has to justify. If you post lots and don't vote it is much harder to detect your position later on as no one wants to go back through 2000 posts.

Also switching over to squiggs here as well as i perfer him over mmmmhmmm.

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Old 10-07-2014, 12:34 PM   #1558
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Today has not been a great day for us. I suppose I could be talked into voting someone else, but here is what I worry about.

If hmmhmmcamo has a power role like GGG is suggesting do we really want to have him reveal himself with a 'final post'? We already have ECF exposed as the doctor, we also outed Matt and his lynchproof ability. If hmmhmmcamo is the cop like GGG has been suggesting it would suck to have the doctor and cop both exposed and Matt killed in the same day. However the other side of the coin could be that hmmhmmcamo is mafia and is just trying to take advantage of the day we have had hoping we are a little gun shy now.

At this point I don't really know what the best plan of attack is. Squiggs said he is back from vacation on the 10th I believe, but do we want to wait another couple days for him to help out? Aeneas just came in and hasn't really had a chance to do much with everything that went on. Then with hmmhmmcamo I don't know if he is deflecting because he is mafia or if he has a power role.
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Old 10-07-2014, 12:36 PM   #1559
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To clarify the part about hmmhmmcamo and his final post. I mean do we want to push him to the brink the make a 'final post' only to change our mind and keep him around.
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Old 10-07-2014, 12:45 PM   #1560
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I don't hate the squiggs vote personally, never really hunting scum from my point of view. I'm not watching as closely as others, but I assumed the inactivity was more due to the hawaii vaction. It makes sense squiggs can read and follow along eaisly, especially on a phone, but it would be much harder to post. That's why he was not really on my radar at this point.


I'm not convinced enought to take my vote off hmmm for now. So many deflecting posts just seems too fishy to me. I will wait to see if squiggs or hmmm says anything to change my mind. Hopefully squiggs can chime in now that he has a few votes on him.
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