Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by Duruss

Why not? He can burn a couple piles of political capital with Albertan's and still take all but a couple seats in Alberta. Orare you suggesting an 'own goal' type event?

I am suggesting he is more of an ideologue than a leader. Prove me wrong, PP.

[MoneyGuy]

Originally Posted by Slava

Which isn't a lot different than a lot of partisans though. Let's be serious here...no one's changing anyone's mind in this thread.

…any thread, or topic, pretty much.

[FireGilbert]

Originally Posted by Flames0910

Danielle is spending millions pushing this agenda (an agenda she doesn't have a mandate for) and biasing the debate rather than providing a balanced perspective of the facts.

Alberta elected a majority government and has no senate to provide a check on power. Like it or not the UCP has a mandate to do whatever the hell they want.

Did think they’d wait at least a year to break their pension election promise though.

[The Yen Man]

I'm honestly curious how Smith would even get the federal government to give up half the pension dollars (that's with the assumption Smith's kooky math is right, which it's clearly not). What happens if the Feds just simply tell her to eff off? Is she just gonna tantrum some more?

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug

Has PP made his position known? I don't think acquiescing to Danielle will play well in the GTA.

The correct answer is to say it is a stupid plan for all parties, but I am not so sure PP would go with that.

He probably wishes the whole APP/CPP issue wasn’t even a thing. Nothing but downside for him politically.

[MoneyGuy]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

I'm honestly curious how Smith would even get the federal government to give up half the pension dollars (that's with the assumption Smith's kooky math is right, which it's clearly not). What happens if the Feds just simply tell her to eff off? Is she just gonna tantrum some more?

She’ll burn more of our money on a frivolous law suit.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

I'm honestly curious how Smith would even get the federal government to give up half the pension dollars (that's with the assumption Smith's kooky math is right, which it's clearly not). What happens if the Feds just simply tell her to eff off? Is she just gonna tantrum some more?

Precedence set with Quebec.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Precedence set with Quebec.

The same Quebec that was never part of CPP to begin with?

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

He probably wishes the whole APP/CPP issue wasn’t even a thing. Nothing but downside for him politically.

I bet he would prefer them to stay in CPP if he was Prime minister but at the end of the day he would honour their wishes.

[aaronck]

Originally Posted by Muta

The same Quebec that was never part of CPP to begin with?

LOL right? Why would anyone care about facts in a case like this?

[Whynotnow]

Originally Posted by aaronck

LOL right? Why would anyone care about facts in a case like this?

Yeah aren’t they inconvenient?

Of course Alberta has a right to start its own plan….but there is no parallel aside from that to Quebec. They never joined the plan and there was no messy divorce or allocation of resources. There is no precedent for someone exiting and the breakup will be very messy.

Now, Trudeau shouldn’t do Smith any favours here. His message should be along the lines of - the legislation gives Alberta this option but the data is pretty clear - the CPP is very well managed, far exceeding the returns from say AIMCo. Add in the benefits of Albertans participating in a larger more diverse fund and the long run favours continued CPP involvement.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by aaronck

LOL right? Why would anyone care about facts in a case like this?

If they are going to make up kyit anyways, why wouldn't they say they would get $5 trillion from the CPP and that it would leave $0 for Quebec seniors.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Yoho

I bet he would prefer them to stay in CPP if he was Prime minister but at the end of the day he would honour their wishes.

No he wouldn’t. The CPC would be cast to down to the realm of the Green Party if they did.

The UPC needs adversaries. They and all their supporters would implode if anyone at a different level of government went along with any of their idiocy.

[puffnstuff]

One of the smarmy pp ads the i was unfortunate enough to see the other day actually had a little line in it about 'protecting the CPP'
Didnt say what it would be protecting from but probably commies and some other rw outrage

[FormerPresJamesTaylor]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

I'm honestly curious how Smith would even get the federal government to give up half the pension dollars (that's with the assumption Smith's kooky math is right, which it's clearly not). What happens if the Feds just simply tell her to eff off? Is she just gonna tantrum some more?

Originally Posted by Yoho

Precedence set with Quebec.

Originally Posted by Muta

The same Quebec that was never part of CPP to begin with?

Genius troll guys, remember Yoho is a genius troll.

[Fuzz]

This is gonna be our Brexit, isn't it?

[KelVarnsen]

Originally Posted by FormerPresJamesTaylor

Genius troll guys, remember Yoho is a genius troll.

It’s just differing views

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by FormerPresJamesTaylor

Genius troll guys, remember Yoho is a genius troll.

ya spelt wanker wrong

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by Wormius

No he wouldn’t. The CPC would be cast to down to the realm of the Green Party if they did.

The UPC needs adversaries. They and all their supporters would implode if anyone at a different level of government went along with any of their idiocy.

I doubt it.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Yoho

I doubt it.

We’re aware of that