Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[PsYcNeT]

UCP doing UCP things

https://twitter.com/user/status/1713972713667117474

[puffnstuff]

Originally Posted by Muta

Better yet, you'd get a personal download link to a radio ad telling you that electricity rates are everyone else's fault but Alberta's, and that as a side note, your pension will come from trickle-down economics from Alberta's energy companies. Any day now.

Isnt the plan was to invest the APP in new coal mines?

[Geraldsh]

No way! Coal may look like oil but it’s not.

[MoneyGuy]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

I'm curious, if someone were to work in Alberta for ten years, but another province for ten years, would they collect both pensions, if they retired in a third province?

I’d say yes, unless they were portable and able to transfer your APP credits into the CPP.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

UCP doing UCP things

https://twitter.com/user/status/1713972713667117474

If you don't make facts public, experts can't dispense advice. This is how you win.

[Wormius]

So in the town hall did they address their manipulative survey?

[Faust]

The Breakdown

“Dinning reiterated Premier Danielle Smith’s government won’t leave CPP without putting the question to voters.
“You're going to get your say,” Dinning told Harvey.
“This will go to a referendum. The government has said as much.”

So there’s that then…

#abpoli #ableg #cdnpoli

https://twitter.com/thebreakdownab/s...635440633?s=21

[Fuzz]

I mean, they also said they weren't going to even consider it, so the bull#### flows thick here.

[Torture]

Referendum question will probably be some biased verbiage along the lines of "Do you think we should separate and provide better benefits at a lower cost through an APP and BTW Justin Trudeau is the worstest and if you vote no you have a crush on him ewwww"

[Nancy]

Originally Posted by Wormius

So in the town hall did they address their manipulative survey?

On CBC Radio, he said something along the lines of "how can we let people say 'no' to the pension plan when we haven't even had a chance to convince them how good it is yet."

[Lubicon]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

I'm curious, if someone were to work in Alberta for ten years, but another province for ten years, would they collect both pensions, if they retired in a third province?

I don't know the answer, but would assume it would be similar if someone lived in Quebec and then moved (or vice versa)?

[MoneyGuy]

Idiots infiltrating a town hall with their crazy theories?

Never saw that coming. Was Theo Fleury attending?

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by Lubicon

I don't know the answer, but would assume it would be similar if someone lived in Quebec and then moved (or vice versa)?

One would think.

The deal there is you can only collect one pension, and they calculate it based on the contributions to both pension plans.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Faust

The Breakdown

“Dinning reiterated Premier Danielle Smith’s government won’t leave CPP without putting the question to voters.
“You're going to get your say,” Dinning told Harvey.
“This will go to a referendum. The government has said as much.”

So there’s that then…

#abpoli #ableg #cdnpoli

https://twitter.com/thebreakdownab/s...635440633?s=21

I need hip waders after reading the responses from Dinning.

[gasman]

Originally Posted by Torture

Referendum question will probably be some biased verbiage along the lines of "Do you think we should separate and provide better benefits at a lower cost through an APP and BTW Justin Trudeau is the worstest and if you vote no you have a crush on him ewwww"

I mean it's pretty obvious the question will be: " Do you want lower pension plan payments with higher benefits in retirement? Yes or No"

It's almost comical, I mean its the most basic red flags of a Scam.

[MoneyGuy]

Those are my choices? Hell yes, sign me up. Until you read the fine print.

[puffnstuff]

Q for the town hall 'when the CPP doesnt just roll over and hand you 350 billion dollars, what then?'

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Q for the town hall 'when the CPP doesnt just roll over and hand you 350 billion dollars, what then?'

I am kind of interested in that too. Is there an abort button if Feds say, “you get 1/12” of the pool. I am also sure there is some lower limit where it doesn’t make sense to continue… unless of course this whole thing is ideological and they’re don’t care if the APP is viable or not.

[Fuzz]

Of course not. This is ideological, it has nothing to do with money. That's just how they are selling it. CPP could offer $30, and they'd still go ahead with it claiming "while the initial investment is lower than we hoped, we know it will grow quickly with a bit of awesome sauce Alberta, and soon payouts will increase to infinity, so there's that." When seniors complain about getting half what they did form CPP, they'll be reassured their sacrifice is so their grandchildren can retire and get paid a billion dollars a month.


This is why you don't elect ideological morons. Maybe note that for next time.

[Yoho]

I think Smith is doing a fantastic job. This is how you make the Feds squirm and concede other points of interest, the Feds know full well what taking Alberta’s contributions out of CPP now and down the road would mean so let’s let this play out.
You guys are playing checkers.