Game Thread: The 2016 US American Election

[Kavvy]

Clinton up in NH

[Cali Panthers Fan]

18 vote lead in New Hampshire for Clinton.

Every vote matters.

[wittynickname]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Honestly man, I know people who are voting for Trump for the sole reason that he's not a Washington insider or a career politician. They hate that he's a pig, but they like that he's not going to be bought by Wall Street like every other politician.

There are definitely racists voting for him, and it's a large chunk, but he didn't win the election on solely on the votes of racists.

It's still the absolute stupidest argument in favor of Trump, that he's not bought by big business and Wall Street. He just cuts out the middle man, that's it.

Oh my god, how is this actually real? I'm having a really hard time grasping that this is what my country has come to.

[Illuminaughty]

Originally Posted by Hyde

Listening to pundits discuss every possible reason for this except the actual ones: systemic racism and misogyny.

Yeah that's it, all the silent majority racists and misogynists came out to vote out Shillary, after voting a part black man in twice the last elections.

Here's something that progressives never seems to consider, sometimes the best choice is a white male based on actual merit, not some nameless systemic all encompassing establishment conspiracy that there is no actual evidence that exists. There's more evidence that this conspiracy doesn't exist then for it.

The Dems shot themselves in the foot and now it's time to fall on their sword. Nobody likes crooked, not even her husband.

[Magnum PEI]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

Yep, that's why Pennsylvania has some of the most archaic alcohol control laws in the country outside of Utah. Something weird about being a commonwealth vs being a state.

I've never been a patriotic person (I always cheer for Canada in international tournaments), and nights like this are absolutely 100% why.

I thought they were just called commonwealths because they were founded when Cromwell was doing his thing in England.

[photon]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

You do understand that broad based tax cuts in a progressive tax system leads to the bigger cut for higher income earners right?

Yes. Which is why it's the wrong thing to do IMO.

[Yamer]

Even as a moderate NDP supporter, we have seen (and I can admit) what inexperience has brought this province. Trump has proven over and over he has no idea what he is doing and no real tangible plan for moving forward.

I am really upset for many people in the United States who will be affected by the backdiving social policies that Trump trumps. All the work, steps forward, and groundwork laid to be for nought is incredibly disappointing. Unfortunately, these will be the promises he will be able to deliver on.

But hey, he's a straight shooter!

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Honestly man, I know people who are voting for Trump for the sole reason that he's not a Washington insider or a career politician. They hate that he's a pig, but they like that he's not going to be bought by Wall Street like every other politician.

There are definitely racists voting for him, and it's a large chunk, but he didn't win the election on solely on the votes of racists.

It's hard to be bought when you are doing the buying.

I see that appeal though, some people buy into the populist hype and don't think in their own best interests. This isn't a new thing in politics.

[GGG]

So the path without Wisconsin is Nevada, Mich, Penn, NH plus Omaha and all of Maine?

[Acey]

Clinton with a big 18 vote lead in NH. No doubt she's clinched that state.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by GGG

But this is better than a Ted Cruz president or even a generic candidate. I suspect he vetos anti LGBT legislation. Your right about the Supreme Court though.

Provided he wins....

I'll go on record saying his Presidency will be vastly different than his campaign. I think I said that about 6 months ago on a thread here somewhere. Someone remember I said that and bring it up say at the end of 2017.

[chubeyr1]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

For someone who objected to people using big words and complex analyses in political discussions, Calgaryblood sure seems really positive about his moral judgments of people he's never met.

Its not like he called over 50 million plus people idiots, racists, etc etc etc etc.

Well maybe he did?

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by GGG

I know the keepin it 1600 guys made fun of him for contesting Michigan and Wisconsin and Minnesota. So I think their lack of out reach to the unions got them.

It's not the lack of union outreach, it's the result of Clinton-dominated DNC policy for the last 20 years.

When Trump talked about the terrible trade deals he was speaking directly to union voters in the rust belt, who have seen their support taken for granted by an increasingly more right leaning democratic government that has presided over the systematic destruction of their jobs.

This is such a huge demographic because of the geographic importance of the states they reside in. The GOP is flipping the union base out from under the democrats.

It's a voting block shift.

[Frequitude]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

Forgive my ignorance here, but in regards to the Keystone KL, what's in it for America? Why would they want to help us export our oil?

They've done a fantastic job of making us the pariah of the oil industry. Would be a shame to undo that, on their part.

Most of the oil heading down KXL won't get on a boat. It will go into US refineries and displace foreign heavy crudes like Venezuela.

Trump supports KXL, but he wants to extract much of the economic rent it would provide to Canada via some scheme like "profit sharing" in his words.

"I would absolutely approve it, 100 per cent, but I would want a better deal," Trump told reporters at a press conference in Bismarck, N.D., where he was scheduled to give a speech to an oil conference on the energy policies he would pursue if elected to the White House.

"I want it built, but I want a piece of the profits," Trump said. "That's how we're going to make our country rich again."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/donald-...line-1.3601927

[comrade]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

Trump is protectionist, a lot of the Republican Party is protectionist. They are going to favour American oil interests and also potentially even claw back trade agreements with Canada. I don't see this as a positive for keystone at all.

All Trump talks about is getting better deals. Canada will be lucky to break even in any trade, Trump will want to win them all.

[nik-]

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That's basically what hearing "Main Stream Media" over and over again has done to me in this election cycle.

Jesus Christ.

[GirlySports]

i was saying earlier, where does Trump get the energy? He campaigned his tail off the last 4 days. He was everywhere!

[Kavvy]

Arz vote has stalled

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

i was saying earlier, where does Trump get the energy? He campaigned his tail off the last 4 days. He was everywhere!

Cocaine.

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

i was saying earlier, where does Trump get the energy? He campaigned his tail off the last 4 days. He was everywhere!

Cocaine is one theory..