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Old 12-10-2025, 12:41 PM   #15361
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You guys just want to fight about everything huh? Clearly it says Rasmus is gone no matter what, aka he's not re-signing here. Hopefully before the deadline means we'll try to trade him but if we don’t he'll walk in UFA. What else could before the deadline possibly mean? This Ted lasso vs team tank every single day is exhausting.
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Old 12-10-2025, 12:46 PM   #15363
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Extension for the acquiring team is impossible according to Rasmus himself. As Bingo said, he's not talking to his agent, so no one is discussing extensions.

So if we are waiting for that we will be waiting until summer.

Royle can clarify but I find this absolutely hilarious. Y'all are tripping over yourselves to insert substantial amounts of extra words to his post to make it serve your narrative. Similarly, I really only have to bold what he said.

I am not going to become friends with Rhett here, but c'mon. The statement says they might not trade him before the deadline. It says nothing about a deadline day trade.
Find it as funny as you want.

But I think a strong majority seeing the words added coming from you. not me or others.
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Old 12-10-2025, 12:50 PM   #15364
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You guys just want to fight about everything huh? Clearly it says Rasmus is gone no matter what, aka he's not re-signing here. Hopefully before the deadline means we'll try to trade him but if we don’t he'll walk in UFA. What else could before the deadline possibly mean? This Ted lasso vs team tank every single day is exhausting.
"Before the deadline" means not "at the deadline" when combined with "gonezo" and the fact Conroy has stated he won't take walk someone to UFA.

EDIT: The price and suitors change a fair bit at the deadline. If he's just a rental, the dealine is when most teams want to make that move. And Andersson has indicated he would sign an extension with Vegas. Possibly he has others he'd be open to.

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Find it as funny as you want.

But I think a strong majority seeing the words added coming from you. not me or others.
I am not seeing this strong majority, but whatever you want to believe man.

It's only yourself you are fooling here.
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Old 12-10-2025, 12:59 PM   #15367
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I am not seeing this strong majority, but whatever you want to believe man.

It's only yourself you are fooling here.
Based on comments it may not be 100-1, but it's at least 10-3. I'd say that's a strong majority.
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Old 12-10-2025, 01:02 PM   #15368
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Royle: "Andersson is gonezo."

I don't have a PhD, and I will never be invited to Mensa (in fact, security may likely remove me from the property for just being a regular dunderhead if I even went to their headquarters), but I'm confident that this means that Andersson will not be a Calgary Flame soon.
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Royle: "Andersson is gonezo."

I don't have a PhD, and I will never be invited to Mensa (in fact, security may likely remove me from the property if I even went there for just being a regular dunderhead), but I'm confident that this means that Andersson will not be a Calgary Flame soon.
For whatever it's worth, I used to be in Mensa and I agree completely.
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How is this a 1 in 100 interpretation. Monahammer and I are going based off exactly what Royle wrote.

I am confused.
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Andersson is gonezo.
It’s just a matter of time, probably before the deadline in a perfect world, but the extension caveat really throws a wrench into the value right now.
If I may, I think the problem is that you guys can’t read well.

He said that Andersson is gone so - this explicitly states that he is gone

He said it is just a matter of time - brings an obvious time element into when he will be gone.

He said probably before the deadline - this means that at some level of probability above 50% it happens before the deadline

He says the extension caveat really throws a wrench throws into the value right now - this speaks to value received for Andersson and it speaks to timing, as the extension can affect both.

Of course he never said anywhere that Andersson would not be traded, just said that it will probably happen before the deadline, implied due to the use of Gonezo that it would then happen at the deadline.

Hope this helps.
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Well it has to happen before the deadline. I think the overall context is it could happen sooner (pre Olympics etc) but likelier at the deadline.
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I watch a lot of OOT games, just flipping from game to game.

Just last night (and this happens on many nights), there was reference to Andersson, Kadri AND Coleman, on the various games (don't ask me which games for which, because I won't be able to remember), just from the PBP guys chatting, and discussing what they think their team might be considering, what's going on in the league, etc..

If PBP guys in other cities are discussing them, do you think GMs are sitting in their offices, waiting and wishing for Conroy to put up an official for sale sign, and lamenting that he hasn't? Is there anyone in hockey that isn't aware that Andersson, Kadri , and possibly Coleman, are available?
The thing is, GMs talk to each other. They know who is available, who isn't. Most teams will not issue a statement to the media to say so and so is available. Fans seem to think if there isn't a statement, then trades aren't going to happen.
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Old 12-10-2025, 01:21 PM   #15373
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I just want to highlight that Royle is not even certain they will trade Andersson.
If he's not traded by the deadline, he walks for nothing in the summer.
How does "Andersson is gonezo" translate to
"Royle is not even certain they will trade Andersson?"
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How does "Andersson is gonezo" translate to
"Royle is not even certain they will trade Andersson?"
He could say "Nothing is ever certain but Andersson will not be back with the Flames next year and will 99% be dealt before or at the deadline". They would harp on Nothing is every certain and the 1% Chance he is not traded.
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I am not seeing this strong majority, but whatever you want to believe man.

It's only yourself you are fooling here.
The irony.

Dude, you really should just stop, you're embarrassing yourself here. Royle9's comments were perfectly clear, you simply had your usual, personal-bias goggles on, and you saw what you wanted to see. But what you think you see simply isn't there.
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I am not seeing this strong majority, but whatever you want to believe man.

It's only yourself you are fooling here.
Keep reading below the post I'm replying to.

Not sure I'm the one being fooled.

It's OK to just admit you read it wrong ... that's probably your best exit.
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I still don't understand how some people see an almost 'scorched-earth' rebuild happening in front of their eyes, but claim that the Flames are not rebuilding, and are instead competing. Keeping Andersson? Even Backlund stated at the start of the season that he is going to be traded.


Let's just enjoy Andersson while he is here. It doesn't make sense for him to extend here, and it doesn't make sense for the Flames to extend him. Conroy is also NOT going to walk him to UFA. Conroy clearly stated that he thought it was a mistake to enter the season with Gaudreau unsigned, and then allowing him to walk. If Conroy was trying to compete and find a way to get into the playoffs, he would have traded Andersson in the off-season, and it would have been a 'hockey trade'. He also would probably have traded futures away for some win-now players.


There are lots of things to worry about. My own mind sometimes starts wandering and I think of a meteorite just coming down and popping me in the head in a one-in-a-trillion accident, and I suddenly start worrying about it for 30 seconds. Sometimes I will day dream and think that the Ruskies will invade, or China, or these days - the USA - and that my resistance cell will be found out and I will be executed. Sometimes I even worry about a black hole forming close by, and the planet getting sucked into it. What I don't worry about, is Conroy holding onto Andersson. This one I know for sure won't happen!


As for "let's trade the vets before we finish high in the standings" - meh.. I see it too, and the Flames certainly are playing well, but they were actually lucky to win against Buffalo. Those were some timely lucky goals, and that game could have gone either way. When Andersson gets traded, this team will do an immediate faceplant. They will plummet in the standings. Not only does Andersson fill a huge hole in the lineup, but he also fills it in the dressing room. Removing him will take the fight out of this team, I would bet, and that's all they really have at this point.
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Guys, I am willing to accept you calling me unreasonable when it's true.
But in this case, gonzo just means gone.
We can agree, right?

There are two ways that Andersson can be "gonzo". We can trade him, which we can only do until the trade deadline really because he has no contract in summer, or he can walk away in the summer as a free agent.

No one is disputing that he is "gonzo." He's already rejected our contract offer.

The issue is the notion that he may not be gonzo before the trade deadline, meaning that we wont be extracting value before he walks.

That statement said he would be gone pre deadline in a perfect world. That's not 99% certain, that's saying it's aspirational that he's gone at the deadline.
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Lol, dude, no. It is you who is only reading half of the statement. Here I bolded it for you:



"probably before the deadline in a perfect world, but"

That implies that there is a chance, probably a reasonable one given the but, that they don't trade him by the deadline. He is Gonezo either way in the summer, as we wont sign him at the number he is demanding. It's whether or not we extract value for him that's at issue. He is gone, but when matters.
Dude...

Andersson will be traded. He is gonezo. Ideally they want to trade him sooner than later but because he's not agreeing to sign an extension with almost any of the other teams, this may end up being a deadline deal where he's traded as a rental. Either way though, expect him to be traded.

You're just reaching to make the statements align with your belief or fears
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