2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

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1) Backlund - KEEP* - *Assumes his extension demands are reasonable. I think he'll have a resurgence in a more offensive minded system, and at the same time not forget how to be a great 2 way player. Pair him with Coronato on the wing and continue to see him be successful with rookie wingers.

2) Lindholm - TRADE - I actually really want to keep Lindholm, but suggest trading him mostly because I think you'd get a great return that'll help the future, and I don't see Lindholm re-signing here anyway.

3) Toffoli - KEEP - Considering Conroy's comment on acquiring another Top6 player, I doubt we can also jettison 2 in the process, and I'm already suggesting trading Lindholm instead.

4) Hanifin - TRADE - Similar to Lindholm I think you'd get a great return for Hanifin, plus it opens a spot for Poirier in a middle pair spot where he should be instead of limited minutes in the 3rd pair.

5) Tanev - KEEP - If only for the character he brings keep him, but when healthy he's one of the most effective guys out there too.

6) Kylington - KEEP - Great potential still, 2nd or 3rd pair flexibility

7) Zadorov - KEEP - Wants to be here, need more guys like that. Plus, big hits, big shots, big Z.


All of the above said, I wouldn't be shocked to see at least half be the opposite, should be a fun summer!

[SuperMatt18]

To me the key theme mentioned by Conroy yesterday was "Asset Management"

Trade

1) Backlund - Trade. As much as he would love to be captain and a Flame for life moving him is the definition of asset management. He's 34 years old coming off one of his best career seasons...move him. Only exception is if he's taking a very friendly extension that is less than $3M.

2) Toffoli - Trade. Once again you have a guy who is 31 years old, coming off a career season, and his new contract will kick in at 32. This is the definition of a guy you trade if you're looking at asset management.

3) Tanev - Trade. He was a gained asset for free in UFA. He was actually way more effective than many thought he'd be when he signed. But he will turn 34 in the middle of the season, has had some injury issues, and any assets we acquire for him are a positive. Asset Management.

Push

4) Lindholm - Push. It comes down to contract demands. If he's willing to sign for $8.5M for 7 or 8 years I could live with that...if he wants more then I'd move him.

5) Hanifin - Push. If he's willing to stay for around $6-6.5M I'd think about it, but if he wants more then I'd be shopping him.

6) Zadorov - Push - it all depends on the contract. If he's willing to stay for around $3.5M then I'd keep him. If he wants to cash in on his career best offensive season then I'd move him.

Keep

7) Kylington - Keep - Still has potential. Brings something the team lacks with his skating ability. Won't have a ton of trade value after missing the season.

Personally to me Backlund, Tanev, Toffoli are no brainers to move. They are all at least 32 years old, coming off good seasons, and will have value in a trade. Don't get attached and hang on to these guys too long.

For Lindholm, Hanifin, and Zadorov it all comes down to the contract ask vs the potential trade return. It's tough to make the decision without knowing what either side of the coin returns for us.

Kylington...you keep until the deadline at least just based on him not playing last season.

[Monahammer]

My takes, prioritized by ranking in importance and speed of execution:

Trade

1) Lindholm - This is my favourite flames player, but if rumored contract demands are true and given his apparent lack of commitment to the franchise, trade him for maximum value.

2) Backlund- Two trade requests. Best season of his career has just passed. Love this player and he has been a warrior for the franchise, but the time is now to both maximize the return for the club AND for him to search for a potential path to the cup in the next 3 season.

3) Toffoli- Great player, great performance. He should have been traded at the last deadline- huge failure of the club not to execute on that. He's lowest priority because, unlike the next two, I feel people are going to treat him as a straight mercenary so you only get value for the one season. With that in mind, his value may increase leading up to the trade deadline and especially if we can offer retention on his already great contract. The other two need to go sooner.

Push

4) Tanev - True warrior. Hold and deal at deadline to a contender. Give him limited minutes until then. He deserves a shot at the cup.

5) Hanifin - I'm undecided. I think if he's interested in a similar contract or small raise (5.5?) he's a keep, but even a hint more and I'm out. Just doesn't provide any real spark in his play. Will never exceed 2nd pairing steady IMO.

Keep

6) Zadorov - I'm a big daddy zaddy fan and I don't think he will cost too much to extend. Excellent guy to have on the lower pairings, and I think he'll continue to become more truculent as time passes.

7) Kylington - Want to see him come back and show what he's got. I also don't think he'd have any trade value.


Trade 2 of our top 3 centres is bold... but they both said they don't want to be here. Yes, perhaps the situation has changed, but IMO we need a fresh start with people who will commit long term to the club. We could also look to the trade market with some of the assets we should bring in.

[dammage79]

Keep:
1. LINDHOLM
2. HANIFIN
3. KYLINGTON

Trade:
Backlund
Kadri (to make room for Lindholm)
Tanev

Flip a coin:
Toffoli. Part of me agrees with the sell high aspect, but part of me also says a goal scoring RW RHS is maybe too important to let go.
Zadorov. Can't keep feeding him short deals, he's going to want term. Not sold that's a viable option.

Always side with the younger option. Kadri was a mistake and it may cost a little to correct that mistake but I don't see a viable growth pattern for CGY if they keep him over Lindholm

Of course all this is moot if Lindholm d3cides he isn't going to stay.

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

2) Lindholm - TRADE

3) Toffoli - KEEP

4) Hanifin - TRADE

I'm the exact opposite on these three. I'm a sell high guy though.

You might be able to get Hanifin on a long term number. He was one that said he wanted to stay.

Lindholm. Had a weaker year, so maybe a little cheaper? We will be searching forever for another center as good as him. Long term deal at his age isn't dumb.

[FlamesAddiction]

I really doubt Lindholm accepts anything less than the Kadri deal. I just don't see how re-signing him is possible barring some miracle.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

My takes, prioritized by ranking in importance and speed of execution:

Trade

1) Lindholm - This is my favourite flames player, but if rumored contract demands are true and given his apparent lack of commitment to the franchise, trade him for maximum value.

Here is what CP does. Lots of people have opined on what we think he will ask (and I tend to agree it will be probably not affordable). But there are no actual rumours out there on his ask. What comes next is this speculation which turned into a rumour becoming a "report".

[devo22]

1) Backlund - PUSH - either re-sign him and give him the C, or trade him this offseason. Really comes down to what he wants to do.

2) Lindholm - KEEP - he had down year, but centers like him don't grow on trees. If the money makes sense and he wants to stay, it's a no-brainer to me.

3) Toffoli - TRADE - easiest one on the list for me. Sell high.

4) Hanifin - PUSH - comes down to contract demands for me. If the money makes sense, I'd love to keep him around ... but if not, he makes for a heck of a trade chip this offseason.

5) Tanev - TRADE - might make sense to keep him until the deadline though.

6) Kylington - KEEP - also a no-brainer. Rooting hard for Oliver.

7) Zadorov - TRADE - love the guy, but he'll probably want term and with Kylington coming back, I think he could be a valuable trade chip.

also, if there's a sensible trade for Kadri out there, you do it.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Icon

1) Backlund - KEEP* - *Assumes his extension demands are reasonable. I think he'll have a resurgence in a more offensive minded system, and at the same time not forget how to be a great 2 way player. Pair him with Coronato on the wing and continue to see him be successful with rookie wingers.

2) Lindholm - TRADE - I actually really want to keep Lindholm, but suggest trading him mostly because I think you'd get a great return that'll help the future, and I don't see Lindholm re-signing here anyway.

3) Toffoli - KEEP - Considering Conroy's comment on acquiring another Top6 player, I doubt we can also jettison 2 in the process, and I'm already suggesting trading Lindholm instead.

4) Hanifin - TRADE - Similar to Lindholm I think you'd get a great return for Hanifin, plus it opens a spot for Poirier in a middle pair spot where he should be instead of limited minutes in the 3rd pair.

5) Tanev - KEEP - If only for the character he brings keep him, but when healthy he's one of the most effective guys out there too.

6) Kylington - KEEP - Great potential still, 2nd or 3rd pair flexibility

7) Zadorov - KEEP - Wants to be here, need more guys like that. Plus, big hits, big shots, big Z.


All of the above said, I wouldn't be shocked to see at least half be the opposite, should be a fun summer!

Backlund, resurgence?..

You mean from the career year he just put up?

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Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Backlund, resurgence?..

You mean from the career year he just put up?

Probably wrong choice of words. I meant the whole team likely will improve offensively and he will help on that front even though he's not often thought to be a big part of the team's offensive tools.

Type fast. Thoughts from brain not always transmit to fingers.

[Jason14h]

Trade them all - or at least as many as you can get good value for

All are too old for the Flames realistic next competitive window except OK who I don’t really even include as part of the team atm

[HighLifeMan]

I'd like to see a three way deal

Hanifin to St. Louis (framework of a deal in place)
Konecny to Calgary
TOR 1st + DAL 1st to Philadelphia

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Here is what CP does. Lots of people have opined on what we think he will ask (and I tend to agree it will be probably not affordable). But there are no actual rumours out there on his ask. What comes next is this speculation which turned into a rumour becoming a "report".

Here is what *you* do. You generalize every post you see and assert intentions imagined entirely by yourself, then parade them around as if they're board maxims.

I have not seen anyone speculating here on what Lindholm's hoping to see in a contract. Not seriously at least.

[memphusk]

Keep Kylington and Zadorov. Trade the rest.

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Originally Posted by Jason14h

Trade them all - or at least as many as you can get good value for

All are too told for the Flames realistic next competitive window

I'm most interested to see how close to a sell off / rebuild we go. I could see either end of the spectrum, probably just depends what the returns can be. With the cap going up it should make things more interesting with teams having more room to maneuver.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I really doubt Lindholm accepts anything less than the Kadri deal. I just don't see how re-signing him is possible barring some miracle.

Why can't we give him the Kadri deal?

[Roof-Daddy]

If we're trying to win (which we are) then IMO you need to keep our top 3 centers.

But at the same time I totally agree with not walking high end players to free agency, so if a guy like Lindholm won't play ball on a fair extension then moving is probably the better way to go. Just don't get fleeced in the trade plz

[Hockey_Ninja]

Listened to Conroy’s interview with Seravalli. When asked about Wolf he said a goalie would have to move out to give Wolf an NHL spot. I feel like Vladar is gonna get moved

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Why can't we give him the Kadri deal?

What contract are you dumping him to sign that? Also, Lindholm is getting the Horvat deal at minimum

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Bonded

What contract are you dumping him to sign that? Also, Lindholm is getting the Horvat deal at minimum

There are plenty of moveable contracts. Toffoli, Backlund, Tanev, Zadorov, Vladar.....

If he wants the Horvat deal give it to him, he is the most irreplaceable player on this team.