Ongoing General Automotive Thread 2.0

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Canadianman

Whereas the Tacoma is ACTUALLY straight out of 20 years ago. They've been the market leader for so long, they haven't had an innovative thought in at least 20 years.

Don't get me wrong, they are incredibly reliable small trucks, but it is hardly cooler.

Wait, it's not an objective fact that the Toyota:

Spoiler!

isn't cooler than the Ranger?

Spoiler!

I find the Ranger to look so sad and boring. Like if you're looking for the lamest truck ever, that's your guy since they'll discount the fata out of it since it sucks so bad.

But the Tacoma isn't a 20-year-old design. It's five years old.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by 81MC

New ranger is out btw. I still get a good chuckle out of a truck with a 5 foot box and a 38 foot cab.

You sure? I think the 2021 is still the same as the 2011. The 2022 is supposed to be the redesign. If you try to buy a Ranger today, you're buying a 2011 truck (I think; could be wrong).

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by WhiteTiger

I don't hate power seats in a car, but after an experience during that crazy cold snap, I'm not as fond of them as I used to be.

I like to use the option that automatically moves the seat all the way back when you turn the car off, and then moves it forward to a pre-set location when you get in and sit down.

During the cold snap, the motor that drives the seat froze and broke...so now my seat was stuck as far back as it could go. With no way at all to move it forward, without tearing the seat apart to get at the screw rails myself.

It was then that I learned that the manual adjustment I had assumed existed, did not. Luckily, I was able to make things work enough to get to garage to get it fixed, but it was really annoying all of the sudden to have a seat you can't control.

I don't "hate" power seats, but I think that there should/needs to be a manual override.

I basically don’t like most digital features that don’t need to be digital to improve their function.

Like 4x4... I don’t need that to be an electronic dial that kicks in when it wants, if it wants, and if it’s working. I have a manual control on the floor, and it’s awesome. And it feels awesome to use. Why change that? Electric shifters? Get out of here. I want the shifter to at least click into a new place. Why wouldn’t it? Just silly. Silly ‘innovation’ to make sure that you are ‘innovating’ so you don’t peeve off posters like above wondering why a perfectly operational and attractive truck needs to ‘innovate’. Right in line with “touchscreens are better” thinking. Unnecessary and in no way an actual improvement.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

I basically don’t like most digital features that don’t need to be digital to improve their function.

Like 4x4... I don’t need that to be an electronic dial that kicks in when it wants, if it wants, and if it’s working. I have a manual control on the floor, and it’s awesome. And it feels awesome to use. Why change that? Electric shifters? Get out of here. I want the shifter to at least click into a new place. Why wouldn’t it? Just silly. Silly ‘innovation’ to make sure that you are ‘innovating’ so you don’t peeve off posters like above wondering why a perfectly operational and attractive truck needs to ‘innovate’. Right in line with “touchscreens are better” thinking. Unnecessary and in no way an actual improvement.

Electric parking brakes are super annoying, too. My 2016 F-150 has one and it takes a couple seconds to fully engage versus the fraction of a second to stomp your foot down on a traditional mechanical parking brake. It annoys me every time I use it.

[Table 5]

Personally I like the older trucks, they are cleaner and less busy than a lot of the newer designs. I prefer the 1st/2nd gen of the Tacoma to the current one in terms of styling (also the engine in the latest Taco sounds like a bag of gravel). Then again my dream truck is the 80s BTTF Toyota, so I tend to like older stuff.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Electric parking brakes are super annoying, too. My 2016 F-150 has one and it takes a couple seconds to fully engage versus the fraction of a second to stomp your foot down on a traditional mechanical parking brake. It annoys me every time I use it.

Interesting, but what do you use it for? Should I be using mine? I had a hand brake seize once overnight and I’ve never used them since.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Interesting, but what do you use it for? Should I be using mine? I had a hand brake seize once overnight and I’ve never used them since.

Nah, I don't use mine that often. Just when parking on a hill.

[burn_this_city]

Its always a good idea to set a parking brake whenever you're on a hill. The weight of the car rests on a pin inside the transmission when you don't use the park brake. Hand brake jamming is usually from a lack of adjusting and pulling it past the point of no return.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Nah, I don't use mine that often. Just when parking on a hill.

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Its always a good idea to set a parking brake whenever you're on a hill. The weight of the car rests on a pin inside the transmission when you don't use the park brake. Hand brake jamming is usually from a lack of adjusting and pulling it past the point of no return.

Yeah that makes sense. I never find myself parking on hills.

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Yeah that makes sense. I never find myself parking on hills.

Must live in Sask

[Engine09]

I need 4 new Tire Pressure Sensors, are the brands sold on Amazon worthwhile or complete junk?

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Table 5

Keep in mind that a lot of the full-size trucks don't fit in a garage and can be a pain in the ass to drive/park in the city. A more compact size can be a big selling feature in itself. Not everyone wants a chromed-out Tonka, regardless of the value per pound.

Sounds like those people don't want a truck then. If those were part of my requirements I'd definitely get something like a Toyota 4Runner instead of a Tacoma

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Interesting, but what do you use it for? Should I be using mine? I had a hand brake seize once overnight and I’ve never used them since.

You should use it often, otherwise when you really need it, it will seize. Needs to be exercised.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by 81MC

New ranger is out btw. I still get a good chuckle out of a truck with a 5 foot box and a 38 foot cab.

It should be illegal to call things trucks that don't have 6 foot beds.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Sounds like those people don't want a truck then. If those were part of my requirements I'd definitely get something like a Toyota 4Runner instead of a Tacoma

Why do you care that some people get good use out of a small truck? Mine does everything I need it to. I can tow my boat, put 4 bikes in the back, fill it with dirt, go to the dump, haul lumber, and it fits in my garage and doesn't look like a brick on stilts. Maybe you decided you need that in a truck, I decided I needed something different.


/triple post score.

[timun]

Originally Posted by Sliver

You sure? I think the 2021 is still the same as the 2011. The 2022 is supposed to be the redesign. If you try to buy a Ranger today, you're buying a 2011 truck (I think; could be wrong).

A new Tacoma isn't much different underneath than a second-generation one, introduced waaaay back in '04. The exterior and interior have been restyled, but fundamentally underneath it's pretty much the same chassis.

It's funny watching you wax poetic about how great they are on the basis of looks, too. Frankly I think the exterior styling of a Tacoma is tacky and overwrought; like a child's idea of what a truck ought to be.

I kind of get the appeal, but given how expensive they are for what you get and notorious rust-buckets it's enough for me to stay well away from them...

[Scroopy Noopers]

I want one of these so badly I can hardly stand it. If it was left hand drive I’d already have one. It would be nice if you could get them with airbags at least...

I don’t even take my truck on the highways here anyway because I’m not a millionaire. I have a more fuel efficient wagon for that. I just need to take it to the dump, lumber store, and really anywhere around town because if I had one I’d drive it everyday.

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[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Why do you care that some people get good use out of a small truck? Mine does everything I need it to. I can tow my boat, put 4 bikes in the back, fill it with dirt, go to the dump, haul lumber, and it fits in my garage and doesn't look like a brick on stilts. Maybe you decided you need that in a truck, I decided I needed something different.


/triple post score.

I just don't get it that's all. Guess it just doesn't make sense to me to spend the same money on a truck that can't do truck things, seems like a waste of $. If I can't get a good-sized bed and decent towing then I'm not buying a truck. Smaller ones are just a rougher riding suv with a bed. I'd rather a wagon or proper suv (not cuv) at that point

It's the price that gets me. If they were actually about $10-$15k cheaper than a half ton then it would make complete sense. But at or near the same price point, it's puzzling

I don't care the way you seem to think I do, it's just interesting that's all. If it works for you that's fantastic. If it makes you happy that's all that matters

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Well, you're obviously wrong in light of the greatest vehicle ever made...

[metallicat]

The reason I'm considering a mid-size truck as opposed to full size, is that I don't plan to do any towing, and I can get a top end trim level for a lot cheaper than a top of the line trim level on a full size.

That being said, I test drove a 49k Canyon with the off road package (all they had on the lot) and it just isn't worth 49k. That's out of my budget range anyways, so I'm changing my focus to something 1-2 years old. That way I can get a better trim level on a bigger truck.