Building The 2018/19 Flames Roster

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Way rather play Neal with Jankowski and Bennett over Ryan and Frolik. I hope Frolik and Ryan are not getting 2nd line minutes like you suggest.

Does that mean you want something like this:

Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Jankowski - Neal
Frolik/Bennett - Backlund - Czarnik
Bennett/Frolik - Ryan - Mangiapane/Dube

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Nelson

Does that mean you want something like this:

Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Jankowski - Neal
Frolik/Bennett - Backlund - Czarnik
Bennett/Frolik - Ryan - Mangiapane/Dube

I like that a little more for sure.

Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Tkachuk-Backlund-Czarnik
Bennett-Jankowski-Neal
Frolik-Ryan-Mangiapane/Dube

Czarnik and Neal could be swapped if Czarnik struggles in a top 6 role. It does feel good to have so many quality forwards and options though

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I like that a little more for sure.

Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Tkachuk-Backlund-Czarnik
Bennett-Jankowski-Neal
Frolik-Ryan-Mangiapane/Dube

Czarnik and Neal could be swapped if Czarnik struggles in a top 6 role. It does feel good to have so many quality forwards and options though

Cool, cool. I think I have a higher opinion of Frolik than a lot of people. But I like your lines. I think a lot of lines could hypothetically work. I'm taking a practical perspective on this year's lines: I'm for whatever works.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Way rather play Neal with Jankowski and Bennett over Ryan and Frolik. I hope Frolik and Ryan are not getting 2nd line minutes like you suggest.

Once you have three good scoring lines you roll all three and the ice time differences between them at even strength is minimal. At this point it becomes very misleading to be talking about first line, second line, third line as if that distinction really means anything. It means a lot in the old setup of top 6 forwards (skill), bottom 6 forwards (defensive players and grinders). The lineup for tonight's games basically features 4 scoring lines.

People get way too hung up on line numbers in the new NHL. A lot of the difference in ice time between forwards in a balanced lineup comes from special teams TOI.

Neal can play on any of the top 3 lines. It's not a bad thing or a demotion for him to be on any of them. It creates a balanced scoring attack which is one of things we lacked most under GG last season with his 1 scoring line, 1 two-way checking line and 2 grinding lines. Peters will run with 3-4 scoring lines and we're miles ahead of last year already.

[Ashasx]

Eric Francis was on 960 a few minutes ago and said if he were Andersson, he would be asking for a trade. He also doesn't see Kylington playing with the Flames any time soon.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Eric Francis was on 960 a few minutes ago and if he were Andersson, he would be asking for a trade. He also doesn't see Kylington playing with the Flames any time soon.

God he is ridiculous, ask for a trade from an up and coming youthful team where there will clearly be space for him to make the team and grow with the organization?

[btimbit]

What a dumb thing for Francis to say. Hamonic, Brodie and Stone are all UFA's in two years, there's no way all 3 get re-signed. Kylington might not be ready until next year then a year as the first call up before a full roster spot seems right to me. Andersson will get his time this year when injuries start to hit, if he performs to the point that they just can't send him down I wouldn't be shocked to see Stone rotating in and out of the lineup.

Rasmus will be fine

[Heavy Jack]

Eric Francis is such a hack only difference in his role change is that it’s even more apparent. Terrible analyst honestly, I’ll never forget talking about Johnny Gaudreau with him the summer before his rookie year - I was volunteering at the Shaw charity classic and he was there in the morning standing around and I approached him to talk Flames hockey. I brought up Gaudreau and how I’d been following his career since the Flames drafted him and how excited I was and Flames fans were about him and he told me don’t hold my breath lol.

The guy literally drills the pessimistic conclusion every single time and it’s so old anymore... I’m sure Andersson gets one last audition against Edmonton here and even if he doesnt it’s most likely Valimaki/Andersson with Kulak and Stone moving on sooner rather than later.

[djsFlames]

Gaudreau Monahan Lindholm
Tkachuk Backlund Czarnik
Dube Ryan Neal
Benzo Jankowski Frolik
Lizard Peluso

Brodano
Haninic
Anderstone
Koolaid

Smitty
Riddick

[Heavy Jack]

Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Backlund - Neal
Dube - Ryan - Czarnik
Bennett - Jankowski - Frolik

Giordano - Brodie
Hanifin - Hamonic
Valimaki - Andersson
Stone

Smith
Rittich

Trade Stone and Kulak

[Heavy Jack]

Double post

[David Struch]

The roster no one wants to see.

Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Backlund - Neal
Frolik - Ryan - Czarnik
Bennett - Jankowski - Lazar
Hathaway/Peluso

Giordano - Brodie
Hanifin - Hamonic
Kulak - Stone
Prout

Smith
Rittich

[David Struch]

nm.

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I like that a little more for sure.

Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Tkachuk-Backlund-Czarnik
Bennett-Jankowski-Neal
Frolik-Ryan-Mangiapane/Dube

Czarnik and Neal could be swapped if Czarnik struggles in a top 6 role. It does feel good to have so many quality forwards and options though

I do like that, but I'm a bit concerned about putting three left shots on the third line (especially important since you have a left shot playing on the off wing with a left shot centre) and about putting a rookie on the off-wing on the fourth line. Swap Ryan and Jankowski, and you have right and left shots who can take draws on the top three lines (and two natural centres on all four lines), plus another natural centre in Dube on the fourth line if Jankowski gets waved out on a draw. Then put Frolik on the right side of the fourth line, since he is more experienced on that side, and you're golden.

So now you have:

Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Tkachuk-Backlund-Czarnik
Bennett-Ryan-Neal
Dube (or Mangiapane)-Jankowski-Frolik

Now add Neal to the Monahan line for PP1 and Ryan or Bennett to the Backlund line for PP2.

Still thinking about how to best work the PK combinations, but I would like to put 2 players who can take draws on each PK unit, without scrambling the lines too much.

[mrdonkey]

Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Tkachuk-Backlund-Neal
Frolik-Ryan-Czarnik
Bennett-Janko-Hathaway
Peluso/Lazar

Gio-Brodie
Hanifin-Hamonic
Kulak-Stone
Prout

Smith
Rittich

Not convinced this is the best roster possible but I think this is what we'll see until the young guys get some time in the AHL.

[btimbit]

Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Backlund - Czarnik
Bennett - Ryan - Neal
Dube - Jankowski - Frolik
Lazar

Giordano - Brodie
Hanifin - Hamonic
Valimaki - Andersson
Stone

Smith
Rittich

Czarnik and Neal rotate depending on performance. Neal on PP1

Bottom D pairing and Stone are always rotating

[Roof-Daddy]

Its really good that we have:

Dube, Mangiapane, Foo, Phillips looking like decent forward options for the future.

And..

Andersson, Valimaki and Kylington looking like decent defense options for the future.

Because we are going to lose somebody a lot more valuable than pending UFA Deryk Engelland in the next expansion draft.

Its going go sting.

[Gaskal]

Everyone just think about how awesome Dube is and how not awesome Eric Francis is.

That is all.

/inebriated

[Stay Golden]

My Hope's for line combos.


Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Backlund - Neal
Bennett - Jankowski - Czarnik
Frolik - Ryan - Dube

Giordano - Brodie
Hanifin - Hamonic
Stone - Valimaki/Andersson/Prout

[FanIn80]

Gaudreau Monahan Neal
Tkachuk Backlund Lindholm
Bennett Jankowski Czarnik
Dube Ryan Frolik

Giordano Brodie
Hanifin Hamonic
Valimaki Andersson

Smith
Gillies