02-09-2018, 12:57 PM
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#1501
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard
I was taking his comment to say that he wouldn't take Draisaitl on his team regardless of the salary he was being paid, which is dumb because he is obviously and objectively a very good player.
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I take it to mean he would not take Drasaitl straight up for Monahan, regardless of contract implications. Which I wold agree. Monahan>>Drasaitl.
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02-09-2018, 01:41 PM
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#1502
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Lifetime Suspension
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Too bad we couldn’t have both. Imagine Gaudreau/Monahan + Tkachuk/Draisaitl
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02-09-2018, 01:45 PM
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#1503
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: San Francisco
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Yen Man
I take it to mean he would not take Drasaitl straight up for Monahan, regardless of contract implications. Which I wold agree. Monahan>>Drasaitl.
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Said this in another thread but Monahan has more goals than Poolparty and Draisaitl combined. There is no question who I would take, regardless of contract. Contract definitely shows the difference between a GM who understands negotiations and a GM that gives his RFA's a blank cheque.
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02-09-2018, 01:46 PM
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#1504
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Love
Tkachuk/Draisaitl
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That pair might have turned out to be the slowest in NHL history. I don't think it would be a good fit.
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02-09-2018, 01:47 PM
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#1505
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
That pair might have turned out to be the slowest in NHL history. I don't think it would be a good fit.
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I think you missed the time when jagr played witb stajan
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02-09-2018, 01:48 PM
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#1506
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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^
Touché.
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02-09-2018, 01:56 PM
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#1507
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
That pair might have turned out to be the slowest in NHL history. I don't think it would be a good fit.
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You couldn’t get the puck from that duo. Throw Frolik or somebody on their RW. Draisaitl is a good skater though
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02-09-2018, 01:58 PM
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#1508
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beninho
Said this in another thread but Monahan has more goals than Poolparty and Draisaitl combined. There is no question who I would take, regardless of contract. Contract definitely shows the difference between a GM who understands negotiations and a GM that gives his RFA's a blank cheque.
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Draisaitl is a passer (leads the league in even strength assists) while Monahan is a goal scorer. He is overpaid for sure though, by at least 1M
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02-09-2018, 02:01 PM
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#1509
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Love
Draisaitl is a passer (leads the league in even strength assists) while Monahan is a goal scorer. He is overpaid for sure though, by at least 1M
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Especially overpaid for a winger.
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02-09-2018, 02:12 PM
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#1510
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Especially overpaid for a winger.
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Yup. Like 60% of his even strength production this year has come on McGenerational’s wing. But Chiarelli is a horrific GM with no negotiation skills.
Just look at that Kris Russell contract lol.
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02-09-2018, 02:18 PM
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#1511
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Love
Draisaitl is a passer (leads the league in even strength assists) while Monahan is a goal scorer. He is overpaid for sure though, by at least 1M
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Fake news. Sounds like you're reading HF Oil.
Gaudreau has 34 even strength assists to Drai's 29.
Both decent numbers for playmaking wingers at this stage of the season.
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02-09-2018, 02:26 PM
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#1512
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GoJetsGo
Fake news. Sounds like you're reading HF Oil.
Gaudreau has 34 even strength assists to Drai's 29.
Both decent numbers for playmaking wingers at this stage of the season.
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Maybe an outdated statistic. Heard it on a broadcast a while back
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02-09-2018, 02:33 PM
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#1513
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Love
Maybe an outdated statistic. Heard it on a broadcast a while back
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No maybes about it. It's not the case and I'm not sure it ever was this year as Johnny only has a handful of PP assists with how much it's struggled overall.
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02-09-2018, 02:35 PM
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#1514
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Yen Man
I take it to mean he would not take Drasaitl straight up for Monahan, regardless of contract implications. Which I wold agree. Monahan>>Drasaitl.
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I think that they are roughly equal players - Monahan has a better shot with one of the best releases in the league but Draisaitl is a bigger body who can make more room for himself and is a great playmaker. It is a really weird comparison as a result.
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02-09-2018, 02:38 PM
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#1515
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Franchise Player
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On February 6, 2018, Leon Draisaitl lead the league in even strength assists with 29. Gaudreau, McDavid and Voracek had 28.
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02-09-2018, 02:39 PM
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#1516
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard
I think that they are roughly equal players - Monahan has a better shot with one of the best releases in the league but Draisaitl is a bigger body who can make more room for himself and is a great playmaker. It is a really weird comparison as a result.
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I think their salaries and the fact one is largely a winger makes a big difference.
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02-09-2018, 02:53 PM
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#1517
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard
I think that they are roughly equal players - Monahan has a better shot with one of the best releases in the league but Draisaitl is a bigger body who can make more room for himself and is a great playmaker. It is a really weird comparison as a result.
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Monahan is taller than Draisaitl. Not heavier though. Monahan's playmaking is underrated IMO.
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02-09-2018, 03:25 PM
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#1518
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard
I think that they are roughly equal players...
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Monahan is a centre whereas Draisaitl plays and produces predominantly on the wing. In a discussion about Monahan's value as a centre any comparison with Draisaitl is nonsensical.
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02-23-2018, 07:21 AM
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#1519
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Lifetime Suspension
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Draisaitl giving me two more reasons last night as to why I was aboard the Drai > Monahan wagon.
Just an incredible player.
https://twitter.com/nhlgifs/status/966872591129509888
https://twitter.com/nhlgifs/status/966894455029612548
Monahan is great too, and a top ~15ish C in his own regard but I think Drai is just flat out more skilled while also playing a heavier game. I think most would pretty much agree as well if Drai happened to play elsewhere and outside of Western Canada. Monahan is clearly the better shooter / goal scorer though.
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