05-20-2023, 01:12 PM
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#15121
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Spurs
LOL
If people think Sutter grossly mismanaged this team will be in for a big shock when this team is mediocre again next just like they were mediocre before Sutter got here. But sure go on deluding yourselves that Sutter was problem and this team is good enough.
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There is a good chance of this but people will be less concerned about it if they clear out some vets and play some kids. I can live with just missing the playoffs if 3-4 of our AHLers are in the lineup all season.
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05-20-2023, 01:18 PM
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#15122
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Lifetime Suspension
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The same medicore team that won 50 games prior to Sutters arrival? Or medicore like missing the playoffs in 2/3 seasons he coached here?
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05-20-2023, 01:39 PM
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#15123
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#1 Goaltender
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Sutter or not, this team is due for quite a correction next season pending they don't blow it up.
Honestly, I'd be shocked if they aren't battling for the Division next season just due to simple correction.
The amount of bad luck the Flames suffered through this season has to be up there with the unluckiest teams of the past 20+ years. I've said it before and I'll say it again because of how hilariously true it is, but I hope someone does a statistical deep-dive of the 2022-23 Flames at some point, because literally everything that could've gone wrong did go wrong, and they still had a fighting chance at the end.
By far the most in awe I've been about a Flames season just from a probability standpoint.
I'm as big a Darryl Sutter fan as there is on here (and I will forever defend that brilliant hockey mind), but next year is going to be so fun just simply based on the correction we'll see combined with the influx of young talent and culture change.
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05-20-2023, 01:43 PM
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#15124
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
The same medicore team that won 50 games prior to Sutters arrival? Or medicore like missing the playoffs in 2/3 seasons he coached here?
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Yes that mediocre team that did nothing before he came here.
50 wins in the regular season, yeah maybe we can put up a banner celebrating it!
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05-20-2023, 01:43 PM
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#15125
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
What the heck are you talking about.
Kadri was a one man show and that was who Huberdeau played with the most.
He showed chemistry with Backlund and was split up right away and not put together until it was too late. Sutter also never truly allowed Huberdeau and Lindholm to click and pretty much sunk our season when he blew up the lines.
Sutter is a hall of fame coach who grossly mismanged the roster last year and his media antics just made things worse.
Saying we have no talent is a dumb take.
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There is talent but just not any really elite talent. No game breakers right now.
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05-20-2023, 01:47 PM
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#15126
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL
Sutter or not, this team is due for quite a correction next season pending they don't blow it up.
Honestly, I'd be shocked if they aren't battling for the Division next season just due to simple correction.
The amount of bad luck the Flames suffered through this season has to be up there with the unluckiest teams of the past 20+ years. I've said it before and I'll say it again because of how hilariously true it is, but I hope someone does a statistical deep-dive of the 2022-23 Flames at some point, because literally everything that could've gone wrong did go wrong, and they still had a fighting chance at the end.
By far the most in awe I've been about a Flames season just from a probability standpoint.
I'm as big a Darryl Sutter fan as there is on here (and I will forever defend that brilliant hockey mind), but next year is going to be so fun just simply based on the correction we'll see combined with the influx of young talent and culture change.
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What young talent?
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05-20-2023, 01:50 PM
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The stats have been available for a while now and it shows the team got exactly what they deserve.
It wasn't some super unlucky season. They played a quantity over quality brand of hockey that's not luck. The posts and crossbar while it felt like a lot teams that made the playoffs a hit more than us. Goaltending Seattle and LA had just as bad goaltending and made the playoffs.
The team should be a lot better if the next coach allows the stars to be stars and focuses in on the powerplay.
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05-20-2023, 01:51 PM
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#15128
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurs
Yes that mediocre team that did nothing before he came here.
50 wins in the regular season, yeah maybe we can put up a banner celebrating it!
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We do have a banner for it we finished 1st in the west!!!
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05-20-2023, 01:54 PM
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#15129
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
We do have a banner for it we finished 1st in the west!!!
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They finished first in the Pacific, 3rd in the west.
Winning your division over an 82 game season is actually a decent accomplishment.
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05-20-2023, 01:55 PM
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#15130
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurs
Yes that mediocre team that did nothing before he came here.
50 wins in the regular season, yeah maybe we can put up a banner celebrating it!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
They finished first in the Pacific, 3rd in the west.
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We won the west in 18/19
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05-20-2023, 01:57 PM
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#15131
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
We won the west in 18/19
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Ah gotcha.
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05-20-2023, 02:03 PM
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#15132
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurs
What young talent?
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Wolf? Pelletier? Coronato? Phillips might sign back with Sutter gone and if Love becomes coach
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05-20-2023, 02:12 PM
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#15133
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Spurs
What young talent?
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Your post history is embarrassing. You must be a blast at parties.
I recognize the year wasn't good but it's over. Let's try and be a little bit optimistic and positive with the changes coming.
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05-20-2023, 02:12 PM
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#15134
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja
Wolf? Pelletier? Coronato? Phillips might sign back with Sutter gone and if Love becomes coach
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Aside from Wolf, there needs to be a lot more quotation marks around the word "talent" if those are the names involved. NHL players maybe, but that's a pretty low bar for the team's best prospects, and highly questionable if some of them even reach that.
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05-20-2023, 02:24 PM
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#15135
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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Originally Posted by mrdonkey
Aside from Wolf, there needs to be a lot more quotation marks around the word "talent" if those are the names involved. NHL players maybe, but that's a pretty low bar for the team's best prospects, and highly questionable if some of them even reach that.
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I'm aware the team doesn't have any blue chip prospects outside of Wolf. But I still think those guys can be decent contributors on the team even if they don't become star players. You need depth to win in the NHL
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05-20-2023, 02:56 PM
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#15137
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja
Wolf? Pelletier? Coronato? Phillips might sign back with Sutter gone and if Love becomes coach
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Phillips is not seen by many as a viable NHLer.
Wolf is a big hope for sure.
Coronato and Pelltier offer hope also.
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05-20-2023, 04:03 PM
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#15138
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#1 Goaltender
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2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
The stats have been available for a while now and it shows the team got exactly what they deserve.
It wasn't some super unlucky season. They played a quantity over quality brand of hockey that's not luck. The posts and crossbar while it felt like a lot teams that made the playoffs a hit more than us. Goaltending Seattle and LA had just as bad goaltending and made the playoffs.
The team should be a lot better if the next coach allows the stars to be stars and focuses in on the powerplay.
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Which stats are you looking at? Because from what I can see that just isn’t true.
2nd in CF%
5th in xGF%
3rd in SCF%
11th in HDCF%
31st in PDO
Sure, they need better goaltending and they need better finishing but that is about as unlucky as you can get in the hockey world over 82 games.
Most teams that have PDO that low aren’t just missing the playoffs, they are favorites to win the draft lottery.
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05-20-2023, 04:08 PM
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#15139
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bax
which stats are you looking at? Because from what i can see that just isn’t true.
2nd in cf%
5th in xgf%
3rd in scf%
11th in hdcf%
31st in pdo
sure, they need better goaltending and they need better finishing but that is about as unlucky as you can get in the hockey world over 82 games.
Most teams that have pdo that low aren’t just missing the playoffs, they are favorites to win the draft lottery.
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05-20-2023, 04:13 PM
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#15140
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Franchise Player
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^^ Those stats seems to prove the point Bax was making
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