2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Psytic]

I don’t know if you guys watch the Barn Burner but Servalli came on and basically said that Q and Bowman were told there was an altercation between a player and a coach and that was it . They didn’t know the extent of it or what it was. So that is why they said whatever deal with it after the playoffs. Who knows if that’s true or not but there’s a lot of assumptions being made. I have a feeling Q will be back in the NHL.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Spurs

I really don't think that I do underrate what a coach like he can do, if it were that easy he would have more Cups and mediocre teams with great coaches would win the Cup more often.

We had a coach last season that didn't grossly mismanage or even mismanage in any way the roster. This is not a contending level team, the talent isn't close to that level.

He didn’t grossly mismanage the team? He played our best player on his off-wing where he was clearly uncomfortable, played Kadri and Huby together for a third of the year, when there was obviously no chemistry, played Lucic in the top-6 for weeks at a time when we were struggling to score, refused to play Pelletier down the stretch when we needed offense, benched Ruzicka, forced a top-4 defenseman off the team, and put Ritchie in the shootout with the season on the line. Ask the players on the team how they felt they were managed.

[dammage79]

What Sandman said.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Saqe

lol at compairing Brunette to coach Q




If Calgary gets Q he would be the best thing since 2004

Huberdeau has a career high of 115 points under Brunette, not Q. No more dinosaur coaches.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I'd prefer to just give mitch love the reigns. What if he's the next coach q?

Ok, but what if he is the next Dallas Eakins?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Huberdeau has a career high of 115 points under Brunette, not Q. No more dinosaur coaches.

I don’t know, man. Most of Brunette’s praise comes from the fact that he changed so little of what Q was doing, while most of his criticism is that he couldn’t adjust in the playoffs when it mattered.

Florida has also proven to be a pretty astute evaluator of coaching talent since the Gallant days, and they had no problem firing Brunette after a 51-18 record. That doesn’t paint a pretty picture.

Not saying he’d definitely be the wrong choice but he seems as risky as anyone else.

[Hockey_Ninja]

I really hope it's Love and they give him and the team time to grow together if the results aren't there right away

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by Sandman

He didn’t grossly mismanage the team? He played our best player on his off-wing where he was clearly uncomfortable, played Kadri and Huby together for a third of the year, when there was obviously no chemistry, played Lucic in the top-6 for weeks at a time when we were struggling to score, refused to play Pelletier down the stretch when we needed offense, benched Ruzicka, forced a top-4 defenseman off the team, and put Ritchie in the shootout with the season on the line. Ask the players on the team how they felt they were managed.

Not playing guys like Pelletier and Ruzicka who aren't close to good enough isn't mismanaging anything. The fact that is the level of player you want to come in shows that the roster is the issue not the coaching.

Hubredeau played on his off wing because like has been the issue for years we have a lack of natural RW in the top 6. This was an issue long before Sutter came in and again points to the roster building not coaching.

Hubredeau didn't fit with anyone he played with, looking at the roster there isn't anyone who is a good fit to play with him, once again look at how this roster was built not the coach.

And of course these loser players would blame the coach rather than point the finger at the real problem which is them and their absolute lack of talent.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by Psytic

I don’t know if you guys watch the Barn Burner but Servalli came on and basically said that Q and Bowman were told there was an altercation between a player and a coach and that was it . They didn’t know the extent of it or what it was. So that is why they said whatever deal with it after the playoffs. Who knows if that’s true or not but there’s a lot of assumptions being made. I have a feeling Q will be back in the NHL.

They were also told that John McDonaugh, their boss, was going to handle it.

You can argue that they should have done more to make sure he followed through on that, but when your boss tells you he will deal with it not sure how many people would think '#### that I will do it instead."

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Spurs

Not playing guys like Pelletier and Ruzicka who aren't close to good enough isn't mismanaging anything. The fact that is the level of player you want to come in shows that the roster is the issue not the coaching.

Hubredeau played on his off wing because like has been the issue for years we have a lack of natural RW in the top 6. This was an issue long before Sutter came in and again points to the roster building not coaching.

Hubredeau didn't fit with anyone he played with, looking at the roster there isn't anyone who is a good fit to play with him, once again look at how this roster was built not the coach.

And of course these loser players would blame the coach rather than point the finger at the real problem which is them and their absolute lack of talent.

Huh? Ruzicka was playing solid hockey and out of nowhere Sutter just benched him. Probably for one measly mistake and Ruzicka was stapled.

Huberdeau played decent with Lindholm and Backlund, not Kadri. But Sutter was doing weird things.

I feel i am a big Sutter apologist, but he needed to go. He, just like other old coaches, had a shelf life. Wish he was more willing to adapt to the new players but he didn’t. Stubborn doesn’t go far.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Sutter is a hall of famer, but he coached last year like he wanted to be fired.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Huh? Ruzicka was playing solid hockey and out of nowhere Sutter just benched him. Probably for one measly mistake and Ruzicka was stapled.

Huberdeau played decent with Lindholm and Backlund, not Kadri. But Sutter was doing weird things.

I feel i am a big Sutter apologist, but he needed to go. He, just like other old coaches, had a shelf life. Wish he was more willing to adapt to the new players but he didn’t. Stubborn doesn’t go far.

I didn't think Ruzicka was playing well at all. He got some stats thanks to the work of other players but he wasn't creating much himself and his play away from the puck was awful. Maybe there is an argument to play him because he is young and we need youth in the team but from a quality standpoint he is not a good NHLer at this point in his career.

Decent? Maybe but that is far from impressive. I agree he was better with them than Kadri but I don't think either was a good fit or what you would want from Hubredeau long term. I think linemates for him is a big issue we need to figure out going forward and I don't think the answer is on the team right now or in the system.

I think that Sutter may have needed to go and didn't grossly mismanage the team. Both things can be true. Him having a shelf life and not being a good fit for these players doesn't change the fact that the roster is the biggest issue with the team. That the lack of talent is a bigger issue than any coaching mismanagement. Trying to put the blame on coaching gross mismanagement is silly and factually untrue. Sutter was far from perfect but also far from the biggest issue.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Ok, but what if he is the next Dallas Eakins?

Then we'll actually draft somewhere valuable

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Spurs

I didn't think Ruzicka was playing well at all. He got some stats thanks to the work of other players but he wasn't creating much himself and his play away from the puck was awful. Maybe there is an argument to play him because he is young and we need youth in the team but from a quality standpoint he is not a good NHLer at this point in his career.

Decent? Maybe but that is far from impressive. I agree he was better with them than Kadri but I don't think either was a good fit or what you would want from Hubredeau long term. I think linemates for him is a big issue we need to figure out going forward and I don't think the answer is on the team right now or in the system.

I think that Sutter may have needed to go and didn't grossly mismanage the team. Both things can be true. Him having a shelf life and not being a good fit for these players doesn't change the fact that the roster is the biggest issue with the team. That the lack of talent is a bigger issue than any coaching mismanagement. Trying to put the blame on coaching gross mismanagement is silly and factually untrue. Sutter was far from perfect but also far from the biggest issue.

Saying that there are no players on the team or in the system that can play with Huberdeau is absurd regardless of the angle you look at it.

He’s been in the league for a decade+ and played with a ton of different players successfully.

It’s probably time to admit that he was committed to playing the way Sutter wanted him to play and not the way that utilized any of his skills. I’ve defended Sutter plenty, but I think absolving him of blame and putting all of Huberdeau’s results on Huberdeau is completely out of touch with everything we know and saw.

[Sandman]

If I didn’t know better, I would think Sutter was deliberately making bad decisions to make Tre look bad, so he could have his job.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Saying that there are no players on the team or in the system that can play with Huberdeau is absurd regardless of the angle you look at it.

He’s been in the league for a decade+ and played with a ton of different players successfully.

It’s probably time to admit that he was committed to playing the way Sutter wanted him to play and not the way that utilized any of his skills. I’ve defended Sutter plenty, but I think absolving him of blame and putting all of Huberdeau’s results on Huberdeau is completely out of touch with everything we know and saw.

Who do you see as a good fit with him?

Last year there was no players that clicked with him at all. Of course there will be players that can play with because of the level of player he is, but it wasn’t like there was a good fit that Sutter refused to play him with.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by Sandman

If I didn’t know better, I would think Sutter was deliberately making bad decisions to make Tre look bad, so he could have his job.

The way the team supported Sutter with his contract and bringing him back it seems like it would have been much easier to just ask for the job if he wanted it.

[Paulie Walnuts]

What the heck are you talking about.

Kadri was a one man show and that was who Huberdeau played with the most.

He showed chemistry with Backlund and was split up right away and not put together until it was too late. Sutter also never truly allowed Huberdeau and Lindholm to click and pretty much sunk our season when he blew up the lines.

Sutter is a hall of fame coach who grossly mismanged the roster last year and his media antics just made things worse.

Saying we have no talent is a dumb take.

[Spurs]

LOL

If people think Sutter grossly mismanaged this team will be in for a big shock when this team is mediocre again next just like they were mediocre before Sutter got here. But sure go on deluding yourselves that Sutter was problem and this team is good enough.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Spurs

LOL

If people think Sutter grossly mismanaged this team will be in for a big shock when this team is mediocre again next just like they were mediocre before Sutter got here. But sure go on deluding yourselves that Sutter was problem and this team is good enough.

Did you sign up just to be another miserable wet blanket? We don’t really have a shortage of those.