12-08-2025, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
I have always found this saying just dumb. Who the F wants a cake if you can't eat it? It's been my experience that almost everybody who has their cake eats it as well.
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And then they have no cake.
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12-08-2025, 04:57 PM
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#15082
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Join Date: Jul 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
I have always found this saying just dumb. Who the F wants a cake if you can't eat it? It's been my experience that almost everybody who has their cake eats it as well.
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If you eat it then you have no cake.
Pepsi said it.
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12-08-2025, 04:59 PM
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#15083
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Originally Posted by Monahammer
For someone who often posts about how other posters shouldn't repeat themselves, you sure dogmatically bring up this exact point basically every time you are able to.
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Well the post he was replying to implied that the Flames had signed UFAs (not true) and that they had not made room for youth (not true) and that by doing those two things they would be rebuilding. But they are already not signing UFAs and making room for youth so presumably they have then met that posters requirements for a rebuild to be occurring.
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12-08-2025, 05:05 PM
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#15084
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
People keep bringing this line of thinking up as though it’s notable, so trading players with term for futures must be fairly common. Can I see where these types of trades are able to be isolated so I can see how often it occurs for other teams?
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Just going off the top of my head the Blackhawks traded Seth Jones for a young player and pick just last year.
The Avs traded Duchene with more than a year left on his deal for futures.
Toffoli was traded with 2plus years left on his deal
Just ones that quickly come to mind in the last few years.
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12-08-2025, 05:46 PM
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#15085
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
And then they have no cake.
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"Cake or death." - Suzie Eddie Izzard
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12-08-2025, 07:16 PM
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#15086
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
I have always found this saying just dumb. Who the F wants a cake if you can't eat it? It's been my experience that almost everybody who has their cake eats it as well.
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Dude lol, delete this.
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12-08-2025, 08:39 PM
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#15087
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Join Date: Feb 2010
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Originally Posted by BigThief
Dude lol, delete this.
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Dude lol, delete this.
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12-08-2025, 09:21 PM
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#15088
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
Just going off the top of my head the Blackhawks traded Seth Jones for a young player and pick just last year.
The Avs traded Duchene with more than a year left on his deal for futures.
Toffoli was traded with 2plus years left on his deal
Just ones that quickly come to mind in the last few years.
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The hawks traded Debrincat, a very young 40 goal scorer, for futures, and Dach as well.
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12-08-2025, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by The Cobra
The hawks traded Debrincat, a very young 40 goal scorer, for futures, and Dach as well.
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Neither of which match what was being described (players traded for futures with more than a year left on their deal).
Neither does Jones for that matter. Blackhawks got a starting goaltender out of the mix who was already signed to a $4M+ deal. Futures certainly wasn’t the focus of that deal.
That’s why I asked, because it seems quite rare overall and I’m curious to see how many actually fit that description. If we’re including players with a year or less, or players traded for young NHLers on multimillion dollar contracts already, then the Flames have already done quite a few of those.
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12-08-2025, 09:45 PM
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#15090
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The Hawks also traded FOR Jones during their rebuild.
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12-08-2025, 09:50 PM
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#15091
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
The Hawks also traded FOR Jones during their rebuild.
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Actually he was their last ditch effort at trying to remain competitive.
Added him to go with Toews/Kane/Hagel/Debrincat/Strome/Fleury.
Went as terribly as everyone expected though
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12-08-2025, 09:53 PM
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#15093
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Originally Posted by mile
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Right in time to call it off because we start winning. Classic mediocrity here we come.
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12-08-2025, 09:55 PM
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#15094
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by Roko
Right in time to call it off because we start winning. Classic mediocrity here we come.
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The Flames are still going to listen even if they are in the wildcard hunt.
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12-08-2025, 09:58 PM
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#15095
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
The Flames are still going to listen even if they are in the wildcard hunt.
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Of course they're not. Conroy will refuse to trade any of the vets and walk them all straight to the end of their contracts. You see, it's his mission in life to give all the armchair GMs on Calgarypuck someone to feel superior to.
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12-08-2025, 10:21 PM
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#15096
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Neither of which match what was being described (players traded for futures with more than a year left on their deal).
Neither does Jones for that matter. Blackhawks got a starting goaltender out of the mix who was already signed to a $4M+ deal. Futures certainly wasn’t the focus of that deal.
That’s why I asked, because it seems quite rare overall and I’m curious to see how many actually fit that description. If we’re including players with a year or less, or players traded for young NHLers on multimillion dollar contracts already, then the Flames have already done quite a few of those.
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Tell me how the Debrincat trade where he was moved with a year left and a year of RFA control for a draft pick does not meet that criteria? Spencer Knight was in the AHL last season and was far from a proven NHL talent.
I just pulled some things off the top of my head my head. You seem very capable of your own research so don’t let me stop you there
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12-08-2025, 10:24 PM
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#15097
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL
Actually he was their last ditch effort at trying to remain competitive.
Added him to go with Toews/Kane/Hagel/Debrincat/Strome/Fleury.
Went as terribly as everyone expected though
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That was the season they tanked and got Bedard
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12-08-2025, 10:25 PM
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#15098
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
The Hawks also traded FOR Jones during their rebuild.
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Different GM’s not the same rebuild. Jones was acquired to try and retool which didn’t work out for them
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12-08-2025, 10:25 PM
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#15099
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Join Date: Apr 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
That was the season they tanked and got Bedard
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Jones was traded in 2021 they got Bedard in 2023
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12-08-2025, 10:31 PM
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#15100
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Jones was traded in 2021 they got Bedard in 2023
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Right - it was one year before they tanked, so his second year with them. But they traded Kane within a year of signing Jones.
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