2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Jiri Hrdina]

My view is the Flames need to replace almost all their centres eventually. Over time Kadri's role will need to be reduced but the toughest thing will be getting the #1 centre. But that doesn't mean you also don't need to find your #2 and #3, and I certainly wouldn't be putting all my eggs in the Frost basket.
Plus centres can more easily shift to the wing.
So I don't understand why just because you have Frost you don't go get Pinto, particularly if you believe there is more there that will be unlocked with greater opportunity.

[dammage79]

Plus as a RHS he'd be a great strong side faceoff option on a Frost line. Sharkbait/Farabee-Frost-Pinto

Even if he is a center he could beef up RW as the 2nd forward on the roster with a right shot. Top 6 rw of Bison and Pinto has real potential

Edit: 3rd FW that's a RHS, forgot Klapper.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Plus as a RHS he'd be a great strong side faceoff option on a Frost line. Sharkbait/Farabee-Frost-Pinto

Even if he is a center he could beef up RW as the 2nd forward on the roster with a right shot. Top 6 rw of Bison and Pinto has real potential

Edit: 3rd FW that's a RHS, forgot Klapper.

They see real potential in Klapka. And that is the problem. Coronato is now established as a top 6 guy. So who rides the 4th line and limited minutes. You can't give everyone a fair shot only so much ice time 5v5 and PP time.

Huberdeau - Kadri - Coronato
Sharangovich/Farabee/Zary - Frost - Klapka/Farabee/Zary
Coleman - Backlund - Zary/Sharngovich/Klapka/Farabee
Lomberg - Morton(goodbye Rooney) - one of the guys who doest get top 9

Also you always get some camp surprises. You cant count on it, but what if Honzek comes back and puts in a better performance one that got him a roster spot to start the year.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

But there is only so much ice time and salary cap

Pinto and Frost both need to be paid in the next 16 months . If you are paying them 6-7 million each and Kadri 7.5 , all of a sudden you are paying 21 million for your top 3 centers with no real #1 and arguably a #2 and two #3s

That’s the problem with acquiring 24-26 year olds . They aren’t actually that young and into their prime earning year , while the Flames are many seasons away from contending base case scenario .

Pinto at 24 years old is a lot better then Frost at 26 (plus I think he’s better) but we only have so much ice time to go around

I sort of disagree.

You are jumping from retool to contender, without the 'steady post season participant stage.'

IMO a team constructed like DAL or CAR has a stage where they get good at making the post season and then have to deal from their vast asset base to obtain a legit game breaking star, as happened this season.

Three lines (or even four) centered by what we would call #2Cs is on average pretty damn good if you can fit them in the cap. Paired with a solid top 4 on D and Wolf, I could see them making the playoffs enough for Calgary fans to start clamoring for a Cup. That would be great!

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

They see real potential in Klapka. And that is the problem. Coronato is now established as a top 6 guy. So who rides the 4th line and limited minutes. You can't give everyone a fair shot only so much ice time 5v5 and PP time.

Huberdeau - Kadri - Coronato
Sharangovich/Farabee/Zary - Frost - Klapka/Farabee/Zary
Coleman - Backlund - Zary/Sharngovich/Klapka/Farabee
Lomberg - Morton(goodbye Rooney) - one of the guys who doest get top 9

Also you always get some camp surprises. You cant count on it, but what if Honzek comes back and puts in a better performance one that got him a roster spot to start the year.

You've also got last year's "Klapka" in Pospisil. Not picking on you, but many on this board are overlooking the buzz on Pospisil going into last year's offseason--which is very similar to the buzz around Klapka this year.

Pospisil didn't really take a big step this year, although I still think he had a decent year, and he's got some significant upside--at least equal to Klapka's.

Definitely have a log jam in the forward group.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by YyjFlames

You've also got last year's "Klapka" in Pospisil. Not picking on you, but many on this board are overlooking the buzz on Pospisil going into last year's offseason--which is very similar to the buzz around Klapka this year.

Pospisil didn't really take a big step this year, although I still think he had a decent year, and he's got some significant upside--at least equal to Klapka's.

Definitely have a log jam in the forward group.

Lol thanks we have so many I knew I was forgetting someone.

Just kind of proves my point we have no room for Pintos and Bourques. Pospisil was called the fixer on lines by a few last year.

Zary averages 43 points per season, while Pinto is 41 similar age. So is he really much of an upgrade, need to give our own guys a chance.

I know Coleman and Backlund wont be around forever, and we hav eguy swho can replace them, but I think the goal should be to push Kadri and Huberdeau down the lineup and replace them with younger hopefully stars.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Andersson for Pinto seems to be a good starting point.

I wonder about what kind of + would be in this package and if we're going to be disappointed.

Ras is coming off a bad year. I'm expecting more of a Hanifin-like return, so if Pinto is involved I don't see the + being a first, personally.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Electricprez

I'd be pleased with getting Pinto.
You never know who pans out or how far they can go; Flames could do worse for Ras.

I would hope we do better than a guy who has a career high of 37 pts for Andersson, even being he is a RHS added. Would have to be some enticing adder to that as well.

[traptor]

Pinto as a natural right shooting center with size that has scored 20g multiple times would have room.


Maybe you send a forward back the other way.


Out of our young forwards, in terms of what they've done so far, Pinto would only rank behind Coronato.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Rasmus + Pospisil for Pinto + 1st

D-U-N. Done.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Rasmus + Pospisil for Pinto + 1st

D-U-N. Done.

I think Rasmus alone is worth Pinto + 1st personally.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I think Rasmus alone is worth Pinto + 1st personally.

I hope you are right
But these year's 1st is higher than they would want to give up (though in a bad draft). And they will have to forfeit next years right?
I would probably take an unprotected 2027 1st. But they likely would want protection so then conditional 1st that is top 10 protected but slips to 2028 if it is top 10.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by traptor

Pinto as a natural right shooting center with size that has scored 20g multiple times would have room.


Maybe you send a forward back the other way.


Out of our young forwards, in terms of what they've done so far, Pinto would only rank behind Coronato.

He is behind Zary as well. If he wasn't injured he would be further behind.

Sending out Pospisil doesn't do much, who is going to the 4th line.

Ottawa should be adding more. Unprotected 1st in 27 is a starting point.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by YyjFlames

You've also got last year's "Klapka" in Pospisil. Not picking on you, but many on this board are overlooking the buzz on Pospisil going into last year's offseason--which is very similar to the buzz around Klapka this year.

Pospisil didn't really take a big step this year, although I still think he had a decent year, and he's got some significant upside--at least equal to Klapka's.

Definitely have a log jam in the forward group.

I would like to see what Ciona can bring soon too. He's a big kid and might be a perfect 4th liner.

This is why we need to trade for higher picks, and we need to add stars only in trades. If you have all depth, you will eventually start to lose guys who you don't want to lose because they aren't getting opportunities here.

[Monahammer]

Easy yes on those ottawa offers, which imo means they're too high. Though maybe ottawas management is watching a lot of iihf right now and falling in love?

We'd probably need to add a better piece than pospisil to get pinto and the pick. Maybe this is the right fit for Mews?

[traptor]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

He is behind Zary as well. If he wasn't injured he would be further behind.

Sending out Pospisil doesn't do much, who is going to the 4th line.

Ottawa should be adding more. Unprotected 1st in 27 is a starting point.

I said in terms of what they've done so far in the NHL. Pinto is further ahead and has proven more.

NHL career wise they're pretty similar, with slight edge to Zary in points and slight edge to Pinto in goals.

Last season pro-rated Pinto is slighty ahead in goals and points. Pinto is bigger and has been a consistent NHL center with solid faceoff numbers.


but I digress, they are a similar caliber of player.

[Monahammer]

If we can get a third 1st rounder we should definitely be angling to trade up with at least 2. Totally agree with macho. We need a star, not 3 shots at a solid second liner.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Easy yes on those ottawa offers, which imo means they're too high. Though maybe ottawas management is watching a lot of iihf right now and falling in love?

We'd probably need to add a better piece than pospisil to get pinto and the pick. Maybe this is the right fit for Mews?

I would really love to understand why you keep adding Mews into trade packages. He isn;t a throw in and especially for a 3rd liner and 1st round when we are trading the best player in the deal.

If we are going to deal Mews as Macho said it's go big or stand pat.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I think Rasmus alone is worth Pinto + 1st personally.

I think one for one is fair. I don’t think Andersson holds the value of both.

Pinto has untapped potential. I think he’s a fantastic target.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Lol thanks we have so many I knew I was forgetting someone.

Just kind of proves my point we have no room for Pintos and Bourques. Pospisil was called the fixer on lines by a few last year.

Zary averages 43 points per season, while Pinto is 41 similar age. So is he really much of an upgrade, need to give our own guys a chance.

I know Coleman and Backlund wont be around forever, and we hav eguy swho can replace them, but I think the goal should be to push Kadri and Huberdeau down the lineup and replace them with younger hopefully stars.

Pospisil had a pretty disappointing year to me. That, plus his concussion situation, make him expendable in a trade for me.