You definitely don't need to make an offer to get the 2nd round compensation
Winnipeg didn't sign 2008 1st rounder Daultan Leveille and was compensated in the 2013 draft.
There is no way Leveille would have refused an ELC offer.
Fair enough and interesting case but Leveille was drafted and became a UFA under a previous CBA. Not the current one that was ratified in January of 2013.
Fair enough and interesting case but Leveille was drafted and became a UFA under a previous CBA. Not the current one that was ratified in January of 2013.
But the wording is almost identical in the 2005 and 2013 CBA. Just added the condition "dies" after Chereapnov's death.
2005 CBA:
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(b) In the event a Club loses its draft rights to an Unsigned Draft Choice
drafted in the first round of the Entry Draft (except as a result of failing to tender a
required Bona Fide Offer (as defined below)), who is again eligible for the Entry Draft or
becomes an Unrestricted Free Agent, a Compensatory Draft Selection shall automatically
be granted to that Club, which Compensatory Draft Selection shall be the same numerical
choice in the second round in the Entry Draft immediately following the date the Club
loses such rights. By way of example, if a Club cannot sign the third pick in the first
round, it will receive the third pick in the second round as compensation.
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Awesome. Hopefully both Jankowski and Gilmour wear Cs on the team next year. Acciari apparently already graduated so despite being a Junior, his coach was treating him as a Senior this year.
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Is there any way that the Flames could have already made Jankowski a bona fide offer?
Do offers have to registered with the league? Made public knowledge?
At the risk of repeating myself it would be much better for the Flames to have Jankowski playing in the AHL next year.
The only reason the Flames would not have made an offer to Jankowski is that they don't project him to be NHL quality and a waste of a contract spot.
You don't think that the Flames would have given Jankowski the option of going pro for next season?
They might have given him the option but that would have been a discussion, not a formal offer. It's not like the team has no contact with these players or their advisors and one day decides to send an offer and hope they accept it.
Is there any way that the Flames could have already made Jankowski a bona fide offer?
Do offers have to registered with the league? Made public knowledge?
At the risk of repeating myself it would be much better for the Flames to have Jankowski playing in the AHL next year.
The only reason the Flames would not have made an offer to Jankowski is that they don't project him to be NHL quality and a waste of a contract spot.
You don't think that the Flames would have given Jankowski the option of going pro for next season?
Not if they think that another year in college would be better for his development. (or if Jankowski had already told them that he is going back for his final year regardless).
I agree with you in that I would rather Jankowski be in Stockton this year as well. However, that does not mean that the Flames "don't project him to be NHL quality". Absolutely no reason whatsoever to make that giant leap of an assumption.
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The thing is this has been discussed before and the opposite conclusion to what you stated was come to and you in your egotistic way were flatly wrong again.
I was also thanking Sureloss for restating the facts.
As for Jankowski staying another year in college. It's a good idea because it gives him a chance to shine and gain confidence before turning pro. Lets just hope he takes advantage of it.
The thing is this has been discussed before and the opposite conclusion to what you stated was come to and you in your egotistic way were flatly wrong again.
There you go with the personal attacks again, tsk tsk.
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The only reason the Flames would not have made an offer to Jankowski is that they don't project him to be NHL quality and a waste of a contract spot.
The only reason the Flames would not have made an offer to Rafikov is that they don't project him to be NHL quality and a waste of a contract spot.
Add another prospect to the bust pile.
Oh, wait a second. Maybe the Flames see the development and growth opportunities differently and see how a player could benefit more from their current position than being caught in a log jam of bodies in the minors? No, the issue is the Flames think guys are crap and don't deserve a contract. Shall we refer to this measure as the RCI, or the Ricardo Contract Index?
Considering the role that Jankowski now has in Providence, it's a no brainer to keep him in the NCAA.
What role would that be?
Is Providence going to be a contender with an absolute rookie goalie?
If Jankowski is ready to carry the team on his back then he should be almost NHL ready.
In his 3 year at Providence Gillies started 109 games and missed 10 games.
He had a sv % of .931, .931 and .930 for his 3 years. This is the kind of performance that is expected at the NCAA level of a high drafted NHL goalie #75 overall.
Without Gillies I don't see Providence doing near as well.
Unless Providence recruits some quality Freshmen and get some miracle goal keeping they will be fortunate to be a .500 team.
At what point does the coaching staff start getting ready for the next season rather than having a farewell tour for their graduating seniors.
Coach Leaman at Providence does not have a reputation for preparing future NHLers.
His most successful player making the jump to the NHL is Josh Jooris. Jooris had another year at Union College after Leaman left and then a full year in the AHL.
Is Providence going to be a contender with an absolute rookie goalie?
If Jankowski is ready to carry the team on his back then he should be almost NHL ready.
In his 3 year at Providence Gillies started 109 games and missed 10 games.
He had a sv % of .931, .931 and .930 for his 3 years. This is the kind of performance that is expected at the NCAA level of a high drafted NHL goalie #75 overall.
Without Gillies I don't see Providence doing near as well.
Unless Providence recruits some quality Freshmen and get some miracle goal keeping they will be fortunate to be a .500 team.
At what point does the coaching staff start getting ready for the next season rather than having a farewell tour for their graduating seniors.
Coach Leaman at Providence does not have a reputation for preparing future NHLers.
His most successful player making the jump to the NHL is Josh Jooris. Jooris had another year at Union College after Leaman left and then a full year in the AHL.
Providence is definitely going to take a step back, but that doesn't mean that Jankowski still won't have a big role on the team.
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I have never imagined anyone would be so attached to what would be a 51st overall pick as ricardo. Just relax dude. The world doesn't end if the Friars don't repeat. Even Gaudreau's Eagles didn't repeat, and they were a stacked powerhouse. Maybe Jankowski's Friars don't even get into the NCAA Tournament. That's better for the Flames, as we sign him and get him into some AHL or NHL games sooner rather than later.
The big thing is that he will be in a leadership role as a senior, and at 21 years old finally NOT be the 2nd youngest forward on his team. He will probably be the 1st line center (which is a huge minutes jump from 3rd line center), hopefully playing with other NHL-draft picks like Pinho and.. well that's the only other drafted forward on the team.
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Top line player on his team. Don't know if it matters if his team are contenders again, the rest of your posts seems to put the utmost importance on it.
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Coach Leaman at Providence does not have a reputation for preparing future NHLers.
His most successful player making the jump to the NHL is Josh Jooris. Jooris had another year at Union College after Leaman left and then a full year in the AHL
Well, he's only 42 so there isn't the four decades of recruiting and development history of a guy like Jack Parker. You're really only starting to see the fruits of his labour. As head coach he sewed a lot of the seeds that Union harvested to turn themselves into a winner, then he did the same with the Friars.
When Leeman took over for the Friars they had one NHL drafted player on the roster. At the end of last season they had recruited over seven guys on the roster that had NHL draft pedigree with guys like Noel Acciari and Tim Schaller graduating and getting NHL deals.
2015 draft eligible players Vincent Desharnais (ranked 209th central scouting) and Erik Foley (#64 by Future Considerations) are joining Providence this fall.
Foley could look good on Jankowski's wing, depending on how fast he adapts to the College game.
Might see the Flames take him in the 2nd or 3rd round.
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