2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by camm13

Blurb from the athletic in Sept by Pierre Lebrun:


Kadri, meanwhile, is believed to have turned down a six-year offer from another club worth $8.5 million AAV pretty early in free agency. The fit obviously wasn’t right for him.


I also think given Kadri’s relationship with his old GM in Toronto, Lou Lamoriello, that some of the wait-and-see approach was seeing if the Islanders would be able to move cap space and make Kadri a contract offer. There was definitely interest in Kadri from the Islanders.


Ferris, when contacted this week, would not disclose what other teams were in on Kadri, beyond saying it came down to three clubs before his client chose the Flames. Once Treliving realized he had a real shot at Kadri, he dug in hard.

I would expect nothing less than lies from scum like Ferris.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Spurs

I think expecting Kadri to be a PPG player is expecting way too much. He has done that once in 11 NHL seasons.

I think you’re right but I don’t think the Flames expect him to be a ppg player. They probably see h as a 65-70 point guy who is a fierce competitor. We didn’t see that later part of that expectation in the last half of the season and there’s probably a few contributing factors at play.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by TOfan

I think you’re right but I don’t think the Flames expect him to be a ppg player. They probably see h as a 65-70 point guy who is a fierce competitor. We didn’t see that later part of that expectation in the last half of the season and there’s probably a few contributing factors at play.

I don’t think (hope) they see him as a PPG player either but even 65-70 is a wildly high expectation for his age/history. I think the biggest contributing factor is his lack of ability to reach those numbers.

[Badgers Nose]

Seems like there is always talk about Avs trading Girard.

Kadri for Girard? What would we have to add or retain?

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Seems like there is always talk about Avs trading Girard.

Kadri for Girard? What would we have to add or retain?

Kadri makes 2 million more I think an additional 2 years? Retain and add a 2nd IMO

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Seems like there is always talk about Avs trading Girard.

Kadri for Girard? What would we have to add or retain?

To save on cap, not to increase it.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Seems like there is always talk about Avs trading Girard.

Kadri for Girard? What would we have to add or retain?

I haven’t looked at the Avs cap space but isn’t a big reason they want to move Girard is his salary? I can’t imagine they would want to add long term cap like Kadri has.

[mile]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1658157566436818944

https://twitter.com/user/status/1658154209202647071

[1qqaaz]

I thought wingers like that want to be the 4th guy rather than the main guy.
Means they're on a better team and they have less pressure.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Oh ok Colorado that's nice.

[Enoch Root]

He doesn't want to be the 4th guy, so send him to Colorado?

Okay then.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

He doesn't want to be the 4th guy, so send him to Colorado?

Okay then.

If he truly believes he's better than the 4th guy his ego is simply inflated. On a cup contender he may be a 3rd option, but 4th seems perfect for him. He's a skilled north-south skater. You make him your 1st or 2nd option there's a huge chance defenders just shut him down with his smaller stature.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by mile

https://twitter.com/user/status/1658157566436818944

https://twitter.com/user/status/1658154209202647071

If Nylander doesn't want to be #4 on the Leafs forever, Colorado likely won't float his boat either, where he would be at the most, #3. Of course, if it was a trade, he wouldn't have a say in it anyway since I don't think he has any clauses.

I know one team where he would be a #1 though...

[soulchoice]

Originally Posted by Spurs

I don’t think (hope) they see him as a PPG player either but even 65-70 is a wildly high expectation for his age/history. I think the biggest contributing factor is his lack of ability to reach those numbers.

Agreed. I doubt he ever sniffs 65-70 points during his tenure with the Flames. Heck, even when he signed, I figured he’d be a 55-60 point centre for the Flames and I was ok with that. So long as he played a good 200ft game. The PPG was an outlier in Colorado.

[1qqaaz]

I do think Kadri has a 70+ point season in him, simply because scoring has increased tremendously and it's way easier to get 70 points than it has been for the majority of Kadri's career.

I still think the contract is an anchor though.

[GioforPM]

Nylander would be a great fit. I dunno how they fit him in contract wise and he’s a pending UFA just like Backlund and Lindholm (and will ask for more than those guys).

If Toronto thought Markstrom could rebound there and wanted Tanev as a Gio replacement - maybe something could be done.

[Spurs]

hard to see us having any pieces that would interest the Leafs if they were to trade Nylander and as mentioned above with our contract situations not sure it would be easy to fit him in and keep the players that we would need to make a move like that make sense.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Spurs

hard to see us having any pieces that would interest the Leafs if they were to trade Nylander and as mentioned above with our contract situations not sure it would be easy to fit him in and keep the players that we would need to make a move like that make sense.

I think it depends what the market is and who is available. With Knies knocking on the door of a top 6 role and the Leafs inability to take a run, it wouldn’t be surprising if one of Nylander or Marner is moved. If they do make that move it seems reasonable that they would want to bolster their D. like the flames, there’s an opportunity to deal from a position of strength.

I could see the Leafs having interest in Hanifin. It would take more than Hanifin, I believe, to land either one of the two. Who knows have the other pieces sort themselves out but I don’t think a Hanifin - Nylander deal, as the primary pieces, is out of question.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Spurs

hard to see us having any pieces that would interest the Leafs if they were to trade Nylander and as mentioned above with our contract situations not sure it would be easy to fit him in and keep the players that we would need to make a move like that make sense.

First of all I don't understand why the Flames would be trading for Nylander unless it's a sign and trade. The Leafs badly need to improve their defense group and the Flames have plenty of players that will help them. Anderson's probably the one they would covet most but he's probably the lone untradeable player on the Flames roster. Tanev and Hanafin would be clear upgrades for the Leafs but I really don't see a lot the Leafs have to offer that's intriguing outside of maybe Knies but he wouldn't be enough as you need to get more for Hanafin for sure.

[ForeverFlameFan]

I think Nylander is a fine player, but I feel like we'd be running into the same issue as we already are with Lindholm. We would have a good few years out of him and then we'd have yet another 30's player on our team when we need to start getting youth in this lineup and hopefully someone down the road pops. Acquiring Nylander (assuming at the expense of Lindholm/Hanifin/Tanev+) is only a lateral move, and also taking away a potential top 6 spot from Coronato if Toffoli is staying.