Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[Fuzz]

This would also turn into yet another nice gift for the boomers, as they'll probably see the most favorable payouts until the whole thing collapses as oil investments crater and our population ages.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Albertans have spoken and put their vote/faith in Premier Smith so let’s see how this plays out.

Look guys, crashing the car into a tree seems like a stupid idea, but we picked her to drive so let's see if her way of crashing the car into a tree isn't a f-cking stupid idea in practice.

Here's the problem: implementing f-cking stupid ideas is some work, and often a lot of money. Undoing f-cking stupid ideas is always more work and more expensive than if you hadn't just done it in the dumbest way possible to begin with.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Albertans have spoken and put their vote/faith in Premier Smith so let’s see how this plays out.

Don’t you mean a slim majority of Albertans have spoken?

[Ozy_Flame]

Lol she barely won, Jason Kenney had the same win percentage in a confidence vote and stepped down.

Id hardly call losing the two major cities, which compose 3/4 of the provincial population, a mandate, but you do you.

Also, "letting it play out" may cause unneeded hardships and severe economic impact on a province that already has the highest quality of living and highest wages in the country.

Let it play out. My god.

[Roughneck]

"Let it play out" was the conservative response to the royalty review, wasn't it?

[Yoho]

49-38 after a few late seats turned by recount is hardly a “barely”

Decent look of the voting map by CBC

https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elec.../2023/results/


Just sit back and enjoy the next 4 years as much as everyone has enjoyed the last 8 of federal elections.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Yoho

49-38 after a few late seats turned by recount is hardly a “barely”

Decent look of the voting map by CBC

https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elec.../2023/results/

I don’t want to alarm you but Albertans and electoral districts are two completely different things.

Just sit back and enjoy the next 4 years as much as everyone has enjoyed the last 8 of federal elections.

This is a very telling statement.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Everything she does is a precursor to separation, and it's pretty wild people don't see that.

Can we create some secret task force that pretends to successfully achieve separation and then we put Smith on the bus with that Didulo psycho to go on the road and then lock the gates.

[TorqueDog]

No doubt that Didulo would have been a guest on Smith's radio show if she hadn't managed to become the leader of the UCP.

[Jason14h]

This is right out of Quebecs playbook . Threaten and try to hold the country hostage with no real intention to leave .

And it has continually worked for Quebec to get some of the most politically favourable policy in the country

Trying to work at all with the East has never worked . So holding them hostage is the next step in the playbook

I can’t image any of these ideas ever reach execution , but the risk of a crazy tearing apart Canada and removing the economic powerhouse of the country may be enough to actually get some favourable policies for once

[Ozy_Flame]

52% voted for UCP, 48% voted for the NDP, and lost 14 seats in the process. Voter turnout was 59%, 8% lower than the previous election, Which means that many people abstained from voting, and it was one of the closest two-party races in Canadian history, in the most deeply conservative province in the country.

Danielle Smith has a fraction of the mandate that all Alberta conservative leaders before her had. That is quite telling of the amount of 'faith' people have in her.

And I would advise Albertans not to 'sit back and enjoy'. You're about to be hoodwinked and have your tax dollars spent very, very unwisely.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

This is right out of Quebecs playbook . Threaten and try to hold the country hostage with no real intention to leave .

And it has continually worked for Quebec to get some of the most politically favourable policy in the country

Trying to work at all with the East has never worked . So holding them hostage is the next step in the playbook

I can’t image any of these ideas ever reach execution , but the risk of a crazy tearing apart Canada and removing the economic powerhouse of the country may be enough to actually get some favourable policies for once

LOL. You think the people who have been working on Alberta separating for 30 years are just going to toss that aside and do it for leverage now? And how much leverage do you think there is available to Alberta vs what Alberta has to lose? No one is buying that bluff. No one is that dumb.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

52% voted for UCP, 48% voted for the NDP, and lost 14 seats in the process. Voter turnout was 59%, 8% lower than the previous election, Which means that many people abstained from voting, and it was one of the closest two-party races in Canadian history, in the most deeply conservative province in the country.

Danielle Smith has a fraction of the mandate that all Alberta conservative leaders before her had. That is quite telling of the amount of 'faith' people have in her.

And I would advise Albertans not to 'sit back and enjoy'. You're about to be hoodwinked and have your tax dollars spent very, very unwisely.

Funny I’d say the same thing to all the federal liberal voters in Ontario, but on a much larger stage. You got what you voted for congrats!

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

LOL. You think the people who have been working on Alberta separating for 30 years are just going to toss that aside and do it for leverage now? And how much leverage do you think there is available to Alberta vs what Alberta has to lose? No one is buying that bluff. No one is that dumb.

Let’s see.

[terryclancy]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Albertans have spoken and put their vote/faith in Premier Smith so let’s see how this plays out.

Man, there was a time when people so ignorant as this would be embarrassed and STFU.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by terryclancy

Man, there was a time when people so ignorant as this would be embarrassed and STFU.

Receipts don’t lie my friend. She won fair and square.

[terryclancy]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Receipts don’t lie my friend. She won fair and square.

I think somebody else already asked you this, but we’re you home-schooled?

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

LOL. You think the people who have been working on Alberta separating for 30 years are just going to toss that aside and do it for leverage now? And how much leverage do you think there is available to Alberta vs what Alberta has to lose? No one is buying that bluff. No one is that dumb.

“Working on Alberta Separating for 30 years “

I must have missed when Alberta was ever close to separating in the last 30 years

I’m not sure you know what leverage means . If the other side believes you aren’t serious you don’t have it ….

[Muta]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Receipts don’t lie my friend. She won fair and square.

You should be worried about the long-term trend of this. The UCP lost seats in the last election, and has now lost the vote of the majority in the two major cities, which is also the majority of Alberta's voting base. 2027 isn't trending in their favour. They may want to try governing a little more intelligently over the next 3.5 years, instead of placating to a red meat base that is shrinking and migration and demographics continue to change from what they used to be in this province.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by Muta

You should be worried about the long-term trend of this. The UCP lost seats in the last election, and has now lost the vote of the majority in the two major cities, which is also the majority of Alberta's voting base. 2027 isn't trending in their favour. They may want to try governing a little more intelligently over the next 3.5 years, instead of placating to a red meat base that is shrinking and migration and demographics continue to change from what they used to be in this province.

I think NDP are the ones in trouble. Does Notley go for the rare hat trick of defeat next time around?