2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Southside403]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Acquiring stars/superstars never dooms a team nor is a catastrophe

The Flames issue is they focus too much of acquiring middle player vs superstars / stars

Now does it make any sense to acquire Marner? Not really , but if you did and locked him up for the next decade he would be the least of the teams problems

2 late firsts and other parts isn’t going to move the needle either . (Baring amazing drafting) . The issue is this team somehow needs to acquire 2-3 superstars/borderline superstars with non in the pipeline and no real way to.

Flames when they had superstars they got shipped out and when they have tried to aquire them they don't Wana come play for us.

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by Teroy

On the Win Column: for Lindholm a first-round pick, a top-six forward who is ideally a centre, and a top prospect. What first round pick would you accept? So, therefore top six forward and prospect?

Kevin Hayes, Emil Andrae and 2024 1st?

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Kevin Hayes, Emil Andrae and 2024 1st?

Oof, hard pass.
Hayes contract is far too rich for what he brings, we also get older and slower.
Draft pick should be in 2023, Emil Andrae isn't moving the needle for me either.

Maybe a Gauthier or Brink, but even still I'm not taking on that Hayes contract.

[Jiri Hrdina]

I agree with not wanting Hayes but the Flyers are going to do a deep rebuild
They aren’t trading their 2023 first or Gauthier

[Heavy Jack]

With Buffalo being so close to making it into the playoffs with them likely in the market for a goalie I could see a blockbuster deal with them for a Lindholm + Markstrom package.

Lindholm
Markstrom @ 10% retained

For

Mittelstadt
Krebs
1st

Is that close?? What do you guys think about Buffalo as a trading partner?

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

With Buffalo being so close to making it into the playoffs with them likely in the market for a goalie I could see a blockbuster deal with them for a Lindholm + Markstrom package.

Lindholm
Markstrom @ 10% retained

For

Mittelstadt
Krebs
1st

Is that close?? What do you guys think about Buffalo as a trading partner?

Well, those are Buffalo's 2nd and 3rd line centres, so I don't think that you're getting both of them. The interesting thing is that they have Cozens and Kulich also in the pipeline, so there could be movement there. I'm sure that they would drool at going Thompson, Lindholm, Cozens, Krebs....

Middelstadt, Kulich and #13 in this year's draft isn't crazy, for just Lindholm.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Sure would be neat if we had a gm. And a coach. Then we'd have a better picture of which way they're heading.

Team disarray needs to maximize the chaos first.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Well, those are Buffalo's 2nd and 3rd line centres, so I don't think that you're getting both of them. The interesting thing is that they have Cozens and Kulich also in the pipeline, so there could be movement there. I'm sure that they would drool at going Thompson, Lindholm, Cozens, Krebs....

Middelstadt, Kulich and #13 in this year's draft isn't crazy, for just Lindholm.

I would take their 1st straight up for one year of Lindholm. Mittelstadt too? And a prospect I’ve never heard of? Sign me up.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

With Buffalo being so close to making it into the playoffs with them likely in the market for a goalie I could see a blockbuster deal with them for a Lindholm + Markstrom package.

Lindholm
Markstrom @ 10% retained

For

Mittelstadt
Krebs
1st

Is that close?? What do you guys think about Buffalo as a trading partner?

Buffalo has their starter this year and going forward in Levi.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Sure would be neat if we had a gm. And a coach. Then we'd have a better picture of which way they're heading.

Not too sure we need a GM or coach to know which way they’re headed.

Edwards still owns the team. They won’t be rebuilding.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Not too sure we need a GM or coach to know which way they’re headed.

Edwards still owns the team. They won’t be rebuilding.

There's still multitudes of directions within those parameters though. I think the only constants on this roster right now are Wolf and Huberdeau. After that, I think anything is possible. To a lesser extent, Coronato, Pelletier are probably as safe as can be as well.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by butterfly

I would take their 1st straight up for one year of Lindholm. Mittelstadt too? And a prospect I’ve never heard of? Sign me up.

So you would want less for Lindholm than the Canucks got for 30 games of Horvat? Flames need more than a 1st if they are trading Lindholm.

Krebs was the key prospect in the Eichel trade so I don’t think they would part with him.

[EverfresH15]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Not too sure we need a GM or coach to know which way they’re headed.

Edwards still owns the team. They won’t be rebuilding.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by dammage79

There's still multitudes of directions within those parameters though. I think the only constants on this roster right now are Wolf and Huberdeau. After that, I think anything is possible. To a lesser extent, Coronato, Pelletier are probably as safe as can be as well.

I can't see how we are able to move either of Kadri or Markstrom, unless we are attaching multiple picks with them which I can't see the Flames ownership doing. So I would include both them as constants for sure, moreso than Wolf for sure.

Also not sure there is anyway Coleman isn't here next year either.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by dammage79

There's still multitudes of directions within those parameters though. I think the only constants on this roster right now are Wolf and Huberdeau. After that, I think anything is possible. To a lesser extent, Coronato, Pelletier are probably as safe as can be as well.

Agreed.

There’s going to be change, for sure. But I just think any move the Flames make will be with an intent of staying competitive and making the playoffs next year.

I don’t think we will see the Flames trading players where the primary piece(s) coming back will be picks. They may pick up a pick or two but I doubt, very much, we see them trade Lindholm to Buffalo for their first round pick, for example.

Or, if they do, I would think they try to then flip their first, or the one acquired, for an immediate Lindolm replacement.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Spurs

I can't see how we are able to move either of Kadri or Markstrom, unless we are attaching multiple picks with them which I can't see the Flames ownership doing. So I would include both them as constants for sure, moreso than Wolf for sure.

Also not sure there is anyway Coleman isn't here next year either.

Disagree, both of those players can move quite easily. For Kadri, imagine a Weber for Subban swap type trade.

Markstrom? Might be tougher if they really wanted to move him but 6m isn't that much even right now. Vladar likely the one to move though..

And I see no guarantees for anyone else other than the unmovable contract of Huberdeau or the top prospect in the organization.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Disagree, both of those players can move quite easily. For Kadri, imagine a Weber for Subban swap type trade.

Markstrom? Might be tougher if they really wanted to move him but 6m isn't that much even right now. Vladar likely the one to move though..

And I see no guarantees for anyone else other than the unmovable contract of Huberdeau or the top prospect in the organization.

Webber and Subban were both still good players when they were dealt and had value. We saw last summer when Kadri was a free agent there was very little to no interest in teams signing him for the deal he got here.

I can't see a team that is going to want to pay 6m for a 33 year old Markstrom coming off the season he just had. Maybe last summer when he was coming off a great season but even then 6m for a 30+ goalie is a tough sell to any team.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Buffalo has their starter this year and going forward in Levi.

I doubt that for next year. Levi needs seasoning yet.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Spurs

Webber and Subban were both still good players when they were dealt and had value. We saw last summer when Kadri was a free agent there was very little to no interest in teams signing him for the deal he got here.

I can't see a team that is going to want to pay 6m for a 33 year old Markstrom coming off the season he just had. Maybe last summer when he was coming off a great season but even then 6m for a 30+ goalie is a tough sell to any team.

Can you confirm that? He had interest but the league has no cap space and he only signed when we had to give a big asset to make room.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Can you confirm that? He had interest but the league has no cap space and he only signed when we had to give a big asset to make room.

I can confirm that he had to wait until later in the Free Agency period to sign with the Flames. I realize that is a bit of an assumption that it was because teams didn't want to sign him rather than him having multiple offers for 7 years at the price we signed him to but that is hard to believe.

As you say teams didn't have the space to sign him to that deal, they still don't have the space to add him at that price. We had to pay someone to take a contract to fit him in.

What do you think has changed since last summer that teams will want to fit Kadri in at his price and term after the season he just had? He was signed to the absolute top end price and top end term for his ability, probably over the price and term that a player of his ability should get.

I am sure there are plenty of teams interested in Kadri the player alone, I would wager their are zero teams interested in Kadri and a 6 year contract with 42 million remaining on it.