2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

I hear you and Marner is a fun player, but in my scenario Marner is the Leeman. Not because he is bad like Leeman, but because he is the wrong move for the Flames right now.

Because for one skilled player that probably doesn’t move the needle on this team, you’d be giving up the future Flames stars scouting would find us with the picks we’d get for these ‘last year of awesome contract top UFAs.’ We are talking a 1B centre and first pair Dman on sweet contracts, we should bring in a haul. In this draft there are lots of players I’d like to see on the Flames from 15-60.

If we’d just haul in picks this draft and let our amazing scouts take care of the rest we could be 2-3 years away from being in the hunt, after what would likely be another fun rebuild (the last one was AWESOME).

Marner would be the best player on the Flames

He is no Leeman in any shape or form

Even how terrible he was, Huberdeau was also no Leeman

Leeman was so terrible, he had no comparison

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

I hear you and Marner is a fun player, but in my scenario Marner is the Leeman. Not because he is bad like Leeman, but because he is the wrong move for the Flames right now.

Because for one skilled player that probably doesn’t move the needle on this team, you’d be giving up the future Flames stars scouting would find us with the picks we’d get for these ‘last year of awesome contract top UFAs.’ We are talking a 1B centre and first pair Dman on sweet contracts, we should bring in a haul. In this draft there are lots of players I’d like to see on the Flames from 15-60.

If we’d just haul in picks this draft and let our amazing scouts take care of the rest we could be 2-3 years away from being in the hunt, after what would likely be another fun rebuild (the last one was AWESOME).

Sorry our amazing scouts???

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by dammage79

IMO, you move anyone else over 30 before Lindholm, don't really care how. You roll with Lindy as the guy you keep. I don't see how it can be any other way. Backs is 6 years his senior, he's going to regress sooner than later, Kadri is just, I lost a lot of faith in him this past season, I'd pay Kotalik prices to move on from that contract.

Lindholm is the perfect Center to bridge the old core to the next core.

…unless Lindy has no desire to be here, and even then does it make sense for us to pay another free agent premium to maintain this level of team?

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by dammage79

IMO, you move anyone else over 30 before Lindholm, don't really care how. You roll with Lindy as the guy you keep. I don't see how it can be any other way. Backs is 6 years his senior, he's going to regress sooner than later, Kadri is just, I lost a lot of faith in him this past season, I'd pay Kotalik prices to move on from that contract.

Lindholm is the perfect Center to bridge the old core to the next core.

Totally, I’m just not sure he extends and if not he has to go - along with the guys over 30 on expiring deals.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Spurs

Sorry our amazing scouts???

Yeah, you need to keep up with current events. 🤪

Our scouts are amazing at finding NHlers with the picks they have. Plenty of posts on here proving it, I’m not going to cite them for you. 😎

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by badgers nose

yeah, you need to keep up with current events. 🤪

our scouts are amazing at finding nhlers with the picks they have. Plenty of posts on here proving it, i’m not going to cite them for you. 😎

lol

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Marner would be the best player on the Flames

He is no Leeman in any shape or form

Even how terrible he was, Huberdeau was also no Leeman

Leeman was so terrible, he had no comparison

Yeah you are missing the point though. It’s not about the players its the timing and not recognizing where the Flames are at.

This is a wildly inconsistent team. If you want the binary awesome/terrible cycle to continue, we can keep doing the same things.

I’d like them to be good and progressively getting better building up to winning something.

But I totally understand why you’d want Marner here. He would be pur best player and that’s sort of the problem.

[Boreal]

Originally Posted by memphusk

Doing a bit of Boozing this morning?

“You fellas been doing a bit of boozin, have ya? Suckin back on grandpa’s old cough medicine?”

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by keenan87

Do the Flames and Leafs make good trade partners?

Nylander for Lindholm

As it is, the Flames have to shed about $2M in cap this year. If they traded Lindholm for Nylander, they would have to shed about $4M. So throw Toffoli away for picks. So you remove Lindholm and Toffoli, and add Nylander, and run with Kadri, Backlund, Ruzicka and Zary as your centres.

And miss the playoffs by 20 points.

Just a horrible idea.

[Harry Lime]

I would love if they ran with their long teem core, filled the rest of the team with young guys, and played next year as a learning year. Exactly as Nashville did. You maximize return, and then maybe enthusiasm and effort gets you near the playoffs anyway. Following year you have a clearly identified roster because all of the young guys had a real opportunity to play for their spot.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Yeah you are missing the point though. It’s not about the players its the timing and not recognizing where the Flames are at.

This is a wildly inconsistent team. If you want the binary awesome/terrible cycle to continue, we can keep doing the same things.

I’d like them to be good and progressively getting better building up to winning something.

But I totally understand why you’d want Marner here. He would be pur best player and that’s sort of the problem.

I get your point

It’s just weird that you brought in the Leeman comparison

Leeman was without a doubt, the worst thing in Flames history and they had plenty of bad deals

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by sharkov

He’s got soft hands brotha. Soft hands

You are correct there. Unlike me. Rough hands and soft eyes!

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

I get your point

It’s just weird that you brought in the Leeman comparison

Leeman was without a doubt, the worst thing in Flames history and they had plenty of bad deals

Yeah, I think trading for Marner would rival the catastrophe of the Leeman trade. Now you’re getting it.

If Lindholm and Hanifin won’t sign extensions, they’ll be assets that return some excellent picks and/or prospects.

It would be a shame to give that up for a quality guy whose salary would pretty much doom the Flames to more mediocrity. Adding him alone does not move the needle enough.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Yeah, I think trading for Marner would rival the catastrophe of the Leeman trade. Now you’re getting it.

If Lindholm and Hanifin won’t sign extensions, they’ll be assets that return some excellent picks and/or prospects.

It would be a shame to give that up for a quality guy whose salary would pretty much doom the Flames to more mediocrity. Adding him alone does not move the needle enough.

Acquiring stars/superstars never dooms a team nor is a catastrophe

The Flames issue is they focus too much of acquiring middle player vs superstars / stars

Now does it make any sense to acquire Marner? Not really , but if you did and locked him up for the next decade he would be the least of the teams problems

2 late firsts and other parts isn’t going to move the needle either . (Baring amazing drafting) . The issue is this team somehow needs to acquire 2-3 superstars/borderline superstars with non in the pipeline and no real way to.

[dammage79]

Sure would be neat if we had a gm. And a coach. Then we'd have a better picture of which way they're heading.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Sure would be neat if we had a gm. And a coach. Then we'd have a better picture of which way they're heading.

I think the GM hiring will happen as soon as the playoffs are over

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

I think the GM hiring will happen as soon as the playoffs are over

I believe they'll do it this coming week. They have made a move after each round.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Acquiring stars/superstars never dooms a team nor is a catastrophe

The Flames issue is they focus too much of acquiring middle player vs superstars / stars

Now does it make any sense to acquire Marner? Not really , but if you did and locked him up for the next decade he would be the least of the teams problems

2 late firsts and other parts isn’t going to move the needle either . (Baring amazing drafting) . The issue is this team somehow needs to acquire 2-3 superstars/borderline superstars with non in the pipeline and no real way to.

Teams acquire star players after the top ten. Having more picks and quality scouts improves the odds. Flames are not going to do Penguin, Hawks, Oilers style rebuilds. So you’ll never get 3 top 3 picks in a span of 5 years for example. And you can’t afford to get &10M wingers for this team.

Looking at Marner trade proposal from last page, you’d be getting one extra year of Marner with a $10M cap hit for Lindholm and Hanifin. A top pairing D and 1B centre on any NHL team, probably a clear 1 on this team. Pouring all that money into another winger. Also selling low on Marky.

I’m surprised I have to point this stuff out.

[Teroy]

On the Win Column: for Lindholm a first-round pick, a top-six forward who is ideally a centre, and a top prospect. What first round pick would you accept? So, therefore top six forward and prospect?

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Teroy

On the Win Column: for Lindholm a first-round pick, a top-six forward who is ideally a centre, and a top prospect. What first round pick would you accept? So, therefore top six forward and prospect?

I really wonder if Buffalo would be interested. They’re close and their pick is very attractive. Would be willing to compromise on the throw ins.