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View Poll Results: When will the ring road be completed?
1-3 years 8 3.85%
4-7 years 91 43.75%
7-10 years 65 31.25%
10-20 years 20 9.62%
Never 24 11.54%
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Old 10-08-2013, 04:57 PM   #1461
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I'm 95% it's because they've failed an audit/the audit is underway/there is some other dispute they're having with the province about opening.

Sending traffic to an area that is under construction creating a crappy situation has NOT been a concern at any point throughout this project, and it certainly won't be as they approach a million bucks in late fees.

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Last week I drove south on 52nd, and couldn't figure out how to get westbound on 22x as the old temporary 'exit' was closed, so ended up cutting through Auburn Bay back to Deerfoot. At the time, I assumed I missed an exit before the bridge, but when I was dirving on 22x later on I realized there is no exit at that point either.

Is there a way to do this now, or is it impossible?
If the ramp from 52 St to WB 22X was on the west side of the bridge, it would be too close to the exit ramp for Deerfoot. That's the main reason it's like that.
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Any timeline on the 22x bridge over macleod? I'm assuming it doesn't have the same deadline as se stoney.
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Old 10-08-2013, 06:31 PM   #1463
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I'm waiting for a response from AB Trans on both Stoney SE and that bridge. They don't like to say much. I look forward to being able to drive home to see my parents when I please instead of planning my day around the hell hole that is Deerfoot Trail.
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Old 10-09-2013, 07:18 AM   #1464
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Any idea why? Is it to prevent excess traffic on the 22X portions that are still under construction?

That had been my speculation; that the portion from 88 street to 17 ave would be open even if the 22X/ Deerfoot portion was not 100% complete.
Personally, I think the bigwigs just want their big grand opening celebration. If they open it up to 22X, they won't ever get to close it again for the big rope cutting ceremony and photo-ops. And if there is one thing Rick McIvor won't miss out on, it is a chance to get his picture taken.
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Old 10-09-2013, 08:52 AM   #1465
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How many more days till it ends up being free?
A lot. At $75k a day, which is a lot of cash to hand over for you or I, on a $785M project its a drop in the bucket. That was why I was asking earlier whether the conglomerate who won this bid really has a problem with these fees, or whether these fees were considered particularly expensive. When you are doing a job for $785M and then end up being paid $784M is it really that big of a deal? Its a miniscule percentage of the whole contract.

I don't know, because I don't work in the field at all. I am purely a bystander, but the penalty doesn't look too severe.
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Old 10-09-2013, 08:54 AM   #1466
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28 years.
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Old 10-09-2013, 09:03 AM   #1467
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Personally, I think the bigwigs just want their big grand opening celebration. If they open it up to 22X, they won't ever get to close it again for the big rope cutting ceremony and photo-ops. And if there is one thing Rick McIvor won't miss out on, it is a chance to get his picture taken.
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Old 10-09-2013, 09:14 AM   #1468
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28 years.
If it's a $70k per day penalty, 30.7 years.

for a $75k per day penalty, 28.7 years.

(I've heard conflicting reports - but doesn't really make difference to the point)
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Old 10-09-2013, 05:14 PM   #1469
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They probably wanna have another gathering like the one they did last time, media, McIver, and everybody. Given how late it'll be, they'll probably try to be a bit more low key.

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Old 10-09-2013, 05:49 PM   #1470
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I always get confused every time I open this thread.

As of today, how far south does the ring road go? Last time I saw it was as far as Peigan.
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Old 10-09-2013, 06:02 PM   #1471
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As of today, how far south does the ring road go? Last time I saw it was as far as Peigan.
Still the case. Nothing has changed.
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Is construction quality ever affected to stay on budget?
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Old 10-09-2013, 09:47 PM   #1473
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In the case of this project, I'd speculate that maybe quality was compromised to stay on time. They closed the biggest new bridge at Deerfoot/22 yesterday for emergency repairs, after having opened it only a few days prior. Feeling the pressure of the deadline, maybe.
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They probably wanna have another gathering like the one they did last time, media, McIver, and everybody. Given how late it'll be, they'll probably try to be a bit more low key.

I hate all of these people.
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Old 10-10-2013, 02:13 AM   #1475
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Still the case. Nothing has changed.
Peigan was a sh**storm when I took it from Stoney to 52 St. today. In part due to all the massive semis going into the industrial area. But I believe that light needs to stay green longer.
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Old 10-10-2013, 07:31 AM   #1476
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Peigan was a sh**storm when I took it from Stoney to 52 St. today. In part due to all the massive semis going into the industrial area. But I believe that light needs to stay green longer.
Yup, I've been saying that for several months now. It's ridiculous.
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A lot. At $75k a day, which is a lot of cash to hand over for you or I, on a $785M project its a drop in the bucket. That was why I was asking earlier whether the conglomerate who won this bid really has a problem with these fees, or whether these fees were considered particularly expensive. When you are doing a job for $785M and then end up being paid $784M is it really that big of a deal? Its a miniscule percentage of the whole contract.

I don't know, because I don't work in the field at all. I am purely a bystander, but the penalty doesn't look too severe.
True, but the contractor obviously isn't making $785 million in profit. I have no idea what their profit would be from the construction piece (as opposed to the maintenance contract), but odds are that $1 million will not be a miniscule percentage of that.
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Yup, I've been saying that for several months now. It's ridiculous.
I have been driving that route for the past month and most of the time it hasn't been that bad. On the odd day though it can be horrible and the light barely let any traffic through. Hopefully they open Stoney past Peigan ASAP
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I have been driving that route for the past month and most of the time it hasn't been that bad. On the odd day though it can be horrible and the light barely let any traffic through. Hopefully they open Stoney past Peigan ASAP
I've been completely avoiding it during rush times, but every time I've driven it at non rush times, it's still a 5+ light wait, while every other direction at the intersection basically has no delays.

And it's only as little as 5+ light waits because I go into the left lane where the only option is to turn left. Staying in the right lane to go straight probably adds another 3-4 lights.

The temporary fix is as simple as increasing the green time, which shouldn't be hard.
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Old 10-10-2013, 07:54 AM   #1480
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I don't use Peigan and 52nd intersection anymore because of how bad the traffic is there. In the mornings I detour south to 50th ave to bypass waiting at 52nd going eastbound on peigan, and in the evenings i go to glenmore trail. it is redonkulous.
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