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Old 05-30-2023, 12:15 PM   #1461
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I see, so no source then.
The time it took him to have to respond that he's going back to work has stunted the Alberta economy by one angry face worth of GDP and allowed Justin to personally cancel another pipeline. He's going to have to stay late tonight to make it up.
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LOL. “You voted UCP, you’re a bigot!” Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. $&@% that’s funny.
When did you stop hating Filipinos?
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Old 05-30-2023, 12:16 PM   #1463
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You should move to North Korea. You would be happier there.
Considering the current political spectrum in Alberta, I don't think this is the clapback you think it is.
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Old 05-30-2023, 12:16 PM   #1464
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Why'd any MLA cross the floor and put their political career at risk? Alberta just showed that they will vote for any party leader that is conservative.
The entire Wildrose crossed the floor and how many of their political careers are still at risk? It's not none, but it's not everyone, but there's some precedent for it.

Politics has been changing rapidly in the last decade. Floor crossing might not be as huge of a political suicide as it was in the past. Things are now crazier and people more accepting or wiling to forget certain different things now.

And MLAs may do it to save their career if Smith decides to drag everyone in an undesirable direction. The bizarre aspect to this is that they might be saving their careers by crossing the floor. Not automatically killing it.

Again, I'm not saying it's an inevitability. It's a strange environment where it's a long shot possibility that cannot be ignored.

Lots of Albertans did not feel well represented by either Smith or Notley. Ask around. Whether you voted UCP or NDP, many of of us might have more commonalities than the aspects we feel represent us under the UCP or NDP banner. There are a lot of A lot of us that strategically voted or protest voted and many likely kept voting the same because it was the devil they know vs the devil they don't know out of fear. We are all Albertans. The more we go, "US vs THEM" the more we all cede our powers to the political leaders. Some of us might have a good relationship and like our MLA, but hate the party leader.

Based on what happens from this point out, the next election might be ripe for the re-creation of other parties to take seats that Albertans will feel better represent them than the UCP or NDP. Furthermore, if we all do our part and reinforcing cultural, ethical, economical etc. divides, the more likely we all benefit.

IMO, we should not rely solely on politics to improve things. IMO it is our civic duty to be the change we wish to see happen in the world. I might get blown out of the water for this opinion and be considered unrealistic, but I honest to God believe this and I do what I can to try and implement this. Politics is not my arena. I'll take all the losses, bow out and go do what I believe is right vs engaging in (IMO) pointless battles and banter and waste my time and energy there.

Our province is much better off with more "How are you? I appreciate that you voted and is there a way we can make each other feel appreciated today?" vs "Go #### yourself! You're part of everything that's wrong!"
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Come now, let's not pretend that this individual has the mental or physical capacity to add anything meaningful to the economy via his labor.
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This thread is an absolute tire fire of anguish
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Old 05-30-2023, 12:18 PM   #1467
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When did you stop hating Filipinos?
I love Filipinos, one of my best friends is Filipino. I’m a bigot now though, so not sure how long it will last.
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I’m asking you. Do you think Canada has gotten worse under Trudeau?
That was a very passive aggressive way of asking me then. Couldn’t get right to the point? If you read who I was quoting the poster as they said smith was a liar, broken laws etc. If any of those points don’t scream Trudeau then stay delusional. Regarding your question Trudeau’s time has passed, time for a new view or same party new leadership.
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I love Filipinos, one of my best friends is Filipino. I’m a bigot now though, so not sure how long it will last.
Better edit this before Yoho sees it.
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Old 05-30-2023, 12:21 PM   #1470
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This thread has really brought out the ugliness in people, but that's what politics do.
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The truth is, I don’t give a flying $&@% what anybody in this thread thinks about me in case you haven’t noticed yet. I voted UCP and exercised my right within a democracy.

You guys are all being sore losers and throwing hateful insults because you didn’t get what you wanted.

Better luck next time.
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Old 05-30-2023, 12:24 PM   #1472
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I love Filipinos, one of my best friends is Filipino. I’m a bigot now though, so not sure how long it will last.
Hey you're back! Since you have time again, how about a source on that Trudeau quote?
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Old 05-30-2023, 12:26 PM   #1473
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If you’re really worked up over the result, whether it be due to frustration or believing that a party earning a majority with only a little over half of the popular vote is a good thing for this province, it might be a good idea to just take a breather from posting about it today. Some of these posts are getting a little cringey.
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Old 05-30-2023, 12:26 PM   #1474
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That was a very passive aggressive way of asking me then. Couldn’t get right to the point? If you read who I was quoting the poster as they said smith was a liar, broken laws etc. If any of those points don’t scream Trudeau then stay delusional. Regarding your question Trudeau’s time has passed, time for a new view or same party new leadership.
lol how was that passive aggressive? You didn’t even answer the question. Do you think Canada got better or worse under Trudeau?
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Old 05-30-2023, 12:27 PM   #1475
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This thread is an absolute tire fire of anguish
I think you have to give some leeway for a day or two after an election. Its a long journey and emotions run high. People need a day or two to get the frustrations out and let it all sink in. We need to come to terms with the reality that we are all ####ed now and there is a 50% chance that the person sitting next to you is a bigot.

Unless you live in Edmonton of course.
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The entire Wildrose crossed the floor and how many of their political careers are still at risk? It's not none, but it's not everyone, but there's some precedent for it.

Our province is much better off with more "How are you? I appreciate that you voted and is there a way we can make each other feel appreciated today?" vs "Go #### yourself! You're part of everything that's wrong!"
Yeah, but cross the floor to their own party? Crossing the floor to another conservative party is much different than crossing to the NDP. They will just vote with UCP. The left needs to create a single banner in AB that isn't driven by all NDP policy.



The problem is that Covid really drew out a social and political divide that was simmering that makes it really hard to find middle ground. Danielle Smith cannot be the premier of a party that I can say I appreciate you voted. I disliked Trudeau but I could see why people voted for him especially after Harper wore out his welcome. I can't get there with Smith.
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I think this thread has nailed it. Everyone who didn't vote for the NDP is a stupid racist bigot who has been hoodwinked into believing the lies of danielle smith unlike the extremely smart and savvy NDP voters who are virtuous heroes protecting us from fascism.

Keep going with that narrative, see how well that works out for you.
This is the same quality narrative and football spiking you see when people like Donald Trump are elected or duterte in Philippines
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Old 05-30-2023, 12:30 PM   #1478
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The truth is, I don’t give a flying $&@% what anybody in this thread thinks about me in case you haven’t noticed yet. I voted UCP and exercised my right within a democracy.

You guys are all being sore losers and throwing hateful insults because you didn’t get what you wanted.

Better luck next time.
Better to come in laughing at people, insulting them, and gloating.

Do you honestly think anyone cares what you think about them? What do you think you’re accomplishing by pretending your time is a gift anyone values?
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I think you have to give some leeway for a day or two after an election. Its a long journey and emotions run high. People need a day or two to get the frustrations out and let it all sink in. We need to come to terms with the reality that we are all ####ed now and there is a 50% chance that the person sitting next to you is a bigot.

Unless you live in Edmonton of course.
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This discussion isn't really the best of political discourse and I often think a team sports forum is probably a bad place to discuss things in a nuanced way. Anyone who is on a team sports forum probably has at least some tendency towards a identifying with a team and reveling in competition about who is better than who and whose team is a winner or a loser. But, I assume there are contexts where people can have reasonable disagreements or even persuade each other of the benefits in seeing things differently sometimes. Those places exist, right?
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