I wonder if they'll have Bo kill finally kill off Gideon in the finale or if they will carry him as the big bad into next season as well?
I'm hoping that they do kill him off. I think he has run his course as the big bad to Mandalore.
I mean if they have another show down style fight and he gets away again it's kind of going into 1980's Gargamel territory here.
I do love the actor though and he has done a tremendous job with the role.
I also think him dying off creates the power gap that gives Thrawn his opening to seize control and come back into the spotlight. Seems like Gideon is a pretty powerful warlord in the Empire right now.
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Where did the Mandalorian survivors, the one on the land ship, get fuel for their jet packs after so many years?
Ya I mean.. we have to make some leaps here.
They survived that long on the planet but never saw a tie fighter fly in and out of that crevasse? Had not a sniff that there was a major empire contingent there?
It's a bit much. But those survivors being there was the link to fast tracking the location of the forge and into the trap etc..
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They survived that long on the planet but never saw a tie fighter fly in and out of that crevasse? Had not a sniff that there was a major empire contingent there?
It's a bit much. But those survivors being there was the link to fast tracking the location of the forge and into the trap etc..
yeah I could accept that they were able to avoid detection or even that they didn't see anything, but the fuel for the jet packs seems overly lazy
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I also think him dying off creates the power gap that gives Thrawn his opening to seize control and come back into the spotlight. Seems like Gideon is a pretty powerful warlord in the Empire right now.
I got the impression from the Imperial Council scene that he is powerful, but still has to ask for replacement TIE's and the cool red guard dudes from the others. Some of which I don't even think outrank him, like Hux.
I got the impression from the Imperial Council scene that he is powerful, but still has to ask for replacement TIE's and the cool red guard dudes from the others. Some of which I don't even think outrank him, like Hux.
If you go by the aftermath books, there's pretty much a shadow cabinet within a shadow cabinet.
Hux is a major player because he's the father of the Stormtrooper army.
Ok, I'm going to post some stuff in spoilers because I know some people don't like my stuff, so I can spare them the pain of a theory that might come to pass
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This whole shadow council is filled with disposable yeoman. they are all burnt out Imperial Remnant warlords controlling their own territories, I believe that Gideon is a sacrifice that's going to be made.
But there is a spy on the council, not for the republic though.
If you follow the Disney EU and the aftermath books and some others. After the Battle of Jaku, Palpatine through his observatories got the best of the Imperial Officer core, the most hardcore facist bring order to the galaxy people to go to the unknown regions to meet with the Super Star Destroyer, I think Eclipse or Reaper. This would form the mobile homeworld of the First Order.
They basically it feels like have used these warlords in the Shadow Council to engage pirates to raise money, and a bunch of it will be filtered to the FO.
Right now we know there's no Snoke, they're still working on the cloning project that would bring him and Palpatine to life. The whole Shadow Council waiting for Thrawn to return is a dupe.
The original provisional leadership of the First Order was Hux, and Grand Admiral Rae Sloane who is considered Canon.
She established the name of the First Order, which she saw as a better empire with the First Order being to begin again and do it right.
There were other leaders on the ruling council, but they weren't recognizable names.
Eventually Snoke will be discovered and will become the Supreme Leader. Phasma will show up and become the commander of the army. Ben Skywalker when turned would join the ruling council as the heads of the Knights of Ren.
The Republic would look at these fractured Imperial Warlords and decide they weren't a threat and Mon Mothma would stupidly disarm the republic. This was probably encouraged by inflitrating First Order spies.
This is all so Palpatine by the way with a plan within a plan.
The Shadow Council had a First Order ruler driving things in Hux, but when the First Order made its move and moved into the open, it burst out of the shadow Council like a cancer and the Renmant assets were absorbed into the First Order and the warlords were given a choice of submitting or death.
What the First Order didn't know was that they were a distraction to pin down the Galaxy while the Final Order gained strength.
The plan being that the First Order would be absorbed into the Final Order and Leadership would fall to Palpatine.
So there's a possibility that Gideon will be the sacrifice that makes the new republic relax and think the threat is over. Meanwhile Hux and Sloan if they bring her in, will continue to influence the so called shadow council who are weak and separated.
So in theory, they could introduce a Big Bad in Sloane, but the better story would be that Gideon loses. The New Republic believes that the Empire is truly in the bag and disarms. Then the First Order pops into existance and starts creaming everyone.
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yeah I could accept that they were able to avoid detection or even that they didn't see anything, but the fuel for the jet packs seems overly lazy
I don't know, if everyone on Mangalore had a jet pack and got killed there are probably plenty of half filled ones available to scavenge.
If everyone in Calgary died for some reason and you were the only one left you could siphon gas from cars in garages for decades. Or maybe they found an old gas station, who knows.
Honestly, given we're talking star wars here it doesn't seem like a bigger leap than a magical baby to me.
No, no, no. It's definitely way more fun to nitpick and whine incessantly on the internet about a space show on TV than it is to just STFU and enjoy it.
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They survived that long on the planet but never saw a tie fighter fly in and out of that crevasse? Had not a sniff that there was a major empire contingent there?
It's a bit much. But those survivors being there was the link to fast tracking the location of the forge and into the trap etc..
I thought the survivors were The Spies.
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I have been hearing complaints that the Mandalorian is no longer the main character, rather Bo Katan is. But it seems like a natural progression of the plot, especially if you've seen Rebels and Clone Wars.
Not the survivor captain, but one of the other mandalorians from the planet was cast by the actor who portrayed Skinny Pete on Breaking Bad. He plays shifty characters well, and kind of just disappeared when the imperial showed up.
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It was very ridiculous. Even more so in that a native animal took it out extremely easily, and the land ship had no way to detect, evade or deal with the threat in any way. Yet, that land ship had existed on the planet this whole time and had not run into an animal like that before....until right now...
Anytime Star Wars tries to emulate Earth culture, things get non-sensical. For some reason this season is all about pirates and old timey ships.
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They're saying she's loyal to Dark Maul's faction of Mandalorians (which is now led by Gideon?). And it's theorized she has been pulling the strings to set them up.
I don't think the show is clever enough to thread a twist that far in advance though, so I'm gonna assume it's the land pirates.
I didn't even think of this, and it was right in front of me lol.
I was just blinded by the awesomeness of the last stand.
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I don't buy the Armorer being a spy. She's bailed out Mando, Grogu, and her own convent more than once at risk to herself. It'd be some 4D chess type type con to have been planning to betray everyone that far out.
I don't buy the Armorer being a spy. She's bailed out Mando, Grogu, and her own convent more than once at risk to herself. It'd be some 4D chess type type con to have been planning to betray everyone that far out.
She might take it as an opportunity to eliminate the competition?
Although, I think you're probably right. Joining up with the bad guys seems more like a thing the helmet removing Mandalorians would do. Those guys seem to be constantly flip flopping allegiances.
The Armorer didn't know the Imperials were there in the first place, so a long set up would be far fetched. If she did know, she would have hesitated sending Dinn to Mandalore in the first place to get redeemed with the Living Waters. Why risk your trap getting discovered early? Mando has shown himself to do pretty good detective work
Gideon didn't know until after the Cain told him through the spy droid.
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