CP Mafia 3 - Super Smash Mafia - GAME OVER - Darkness Win!

[GP_Matt]

For the record, I am on board with the poison idea. I really want to see what happens tomorrow though with my vote count. I think the knowledge will help the town decide if joining the groups is worthwhile.

I want to stay, but I have become a distraction and as much as it pains me I think the town needs to move on to succeed.

[Oling_Roachinen]

I know we don't want to throw out conspiracy theories but what if Eternals are just lying to their recruits and the 'opposite' becomes true?

GP_Matt gets a power to be lynch proof but actually starts the next day with an extra vote?

What if ECF uses the poison but instead he dies in a day?

Would it be worth it to use up a lynch on GP_Matt to see if the power he received actually works as intended?

Right now 2 groups giving out what seem to be extremely powerful abilities seems suspect.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by hmmhmmcamo

I noticed this post from diss earlier today at work. It stood out to me as something I've been noticing too. I was busy so I couldn't respond right then.



and now HG posts this



This whole thing stinks and yet we've had a few players that are confident there is nothing to worry about and we should shift our focus off the cults completely. Do we really want someone that it will take 2 votes to get rid of to just hang around for a while?
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I'm wrong for saying we can't waste 2 lynches on Matt now that we know he is lynch-proof?

[GGG]

The other reason we need to kill rather than lynch GP Matt is that if his penalty for joining is an increasing phantom vote each day there will be a day when mafia can railroad a GP lynch, to force night, kill again, then lynch GP the next day and kill again. So if we don't deal with him today and he gets a second phantom vote on day we need to deal with him tomorrow.

[Kjesse]

We have time. Notwithstanding Oling's constant issues with us not giving the hammeree more time last time, this is a fluid situation right now and we don't have to lynch now. We aren't down to hours at the moment.

[Wood]

What's the logic if matts town? I'm trying to think what his intentions were if he was town, but I can't get over the fact I think he's mafia

And now matts just going to disappear and ask to be killed? I don't understand

[Hockeyguy15]

Hmmhmmcamo I have to go to hockey now, so I'll reply later tonight.

Your back is against the wall, so you piggyback off a weak argument to try and swing the votes off you since you are number 2 after Matt.

[hmmhmmcamo]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

I'm wrong for saying we can't waste 2 lynches on Matt now that we know he is lynch-proof?

But that's not what you said.

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

We can't afford to waste a lynch, if we lynch Matt tonight then we have 0 chance of killing a mafia member tonight.

This is what you said, and it's the sort of thing that diss mentioned in his post about people pulling votes away from Matt. Plus there's already been scenarios tossed out that wouldn't require two lynches to get rid of him.

[mrkajz44]

There is no evidence that Matt will get an extra phantom vote for each days he lives. At this point it was just a theory - I think the penalty for joining is just one phantom vote and that's it. We have to stop assuming theories are fact and focus on what we know for sure.

[GP_Matt]

Originally Posted by Wood

What's the logic if matts town? I'm trying to think what his intentions were if he was town, but I can't get over the fact I think he's mafia

And now matts just going to disappear and ask to be killed? I don't understand

Follow my actions believing that I am town and please let me know what I should have done differently. I may be blinded as I have a front row seat, but aside from the mixup with RD I don't know what I could have done differently.

[hmmhmmcamo]

Originally Posted by mrkajz44

There is no evidence that Matt will get an extra phantom vote for each days he lives. At this point it was just a theory - I think the penalty for joining is just one phantom vote and that's it. We have to stop assuming theories are fact and focus on what we know for sure.

I agree. There's also no evidence he is actually immune from getting voted out now.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by hmmhmmcamo

But that's not what you said.



This is what you said, and it's the sort of thing that diss mentioned in his post about people pulling votes away from Matt. Plus there's already been scenarios tossed out that wouldn't require two lynches to get rid of him.

How is that not what I said? Matt revealed he is lynch proof, then I said we can't afford to waste a lynch on him. If we lynch him tonight and he is lynch proof he does not die, so 0 chance a mafia dies.

We don't know if Matt is saved from lynch 1 time or the rest of the game. If we have to lynch him twice to kill him that's 2 free days for the mafia, regardless if Matt is mafia or town.

[GP_Matt]

I have to take off for an hour. Will keep answering questions when I return.

[GGG]

So if we put aside the GP_Matt situation where do we go next.

Option 1 hmmhmmcamo. he is either a power role or mafia. He has plenty of time to post when accused but lays low when not pressed. I am leaning toward power role based on his desire to make a contribution to the town defense.

Option 2 Girlysports - works to keep information private, advocated for quick lynch.

Option 3 try to lynch our 3rd cult member since the first two worked out so well. I don't have an opinion on Starseed.

Option 4 Lynch Squiggs inactive and enjoying the beaches.

Either way if we pick scum we have now failed to lynch our last 3 attempts. Sooner or later we need to lynch someone or we will all disclose our powers and the mafia wins.

[Hockeyguy15]

And on that note I have to go to hockey, I'll reply after.

[GGG]

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[Wood]

Originally Posted by GP_Matt

Follow my actions believing that I am town and please let me know what I should have done differently. I may be blinded as I have a front row seat, but aside from the mixup with RD I don't know what I could have done differently.

I think everyone should do this actually

[Oling_Roachinen]

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FALCON PUNCH!!!
Vote: mrkajz44

Sorry, would have rather see GP_Matt revealed before making my decision on you but seems to be that we wont get that for awhile.

On the other hand, I sure notice squiggs96 is able to view this thread a lot compared to how much he actually posts. I could be easily swayed to get on that train as well.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

I mentioned in a previous post that I would have favored hammering Bizaro yesterday. If it turned out he was scum, that's a quick blow before the other mafia members could even blink. It would have been bold but risky because if we were wrong, we wouldn't have exposed any vote patterns and lost a day and a friend.

But since we didn't use the hammer (and even told the mafia we were slowing down the vote) we are in a bit of a stalemate now after all the inactives became active.

GGG: I see where you're coming from that the mafia probably likes to vote somewhere in the middle. However they know that too. If we dismiss too many things as "the mafia wouldn't do that" they'll start to do it.

Originally Posted by GirlySports

East Coast Flame: I didn't agree with voting for someone due to non-reveal of character. Inactivity was more important and I also thought differently than mrkajz44 where I thought a runaway and hammer wouldn't have been the worst thing in the world (as I mentioned in previous posts).

Wood's action still seems the strangest to me. Why make the 8th vote and then after my vote tell people to stop? If he was afraid of a runaway, why cast that vote at all?

Originally Posted by GirlySports

I was on Bizaro from the original inactivity vote and am the last one to move it. I trust GP_Matt and think he can help us in the future. RD is no help. We are not going to get anywhere arguing back and forth until 10pm. It will just make us more confused. There is support for the hammer so I'll do it.
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RatherDashing

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Might as well post everything on our bulletin board over there in big neon letters. We're not sneaking up on any scum this way. Puxlut just said it, if her list is correct, she's dead.

It is obvious that your vote is your top scum read. Mine is on Matt. Listing top 3 lists doesn't really say anything, anyone can lie. Voting is where it's at, put your money where you mouth is.

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Which brings me to the Eternals and last nights results. Why were there two kills? Two mafias or a mafia and a kill? Is there even a mafia? The entire game could be town against cults, although that would be farfetched.

If the Eternals have a kill, do Matt and ECF have the same power (poison)......

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Drury18: How is my receiving of the letter coincidental? I received it when I said I did, I rejected it and told everyone I rejected it. I have described the letter and Starseed and mrkajz44 confirmed it.

Speaking of the letter let's get back to the cult discussion. someone's must have one right now and it not discussing it. It's been close to 24 hours since mrkajz44 rejected right? Either the have to accept soon or they have rejected it or will reject it and it hiding it. We know what Guardians can reject without consequence. I'm very curious to see what happens when there is an Eternal rejection. What will happen? What do you guys think?

So I went back to my case against girly. And if you ignore the content of all the cult stuff. The above posts I think represent how she is playing the game

- likes secrets
- wants to be unpredictable to the mafia
- she likes speculating on the cult stuff and shifts discussion back to it when as a town I think we need to lay off it.

Of the three above traits the first secrecy is definately a pro mafia trait. The second I don't understand and have bolded the odd statements. I just don't understand why the secrecy around the guardians request after she turned it down. She also at least twice has changed the topic back to the guardians. To me discussion on them needs to be limited to scum hunting. It likes she shifts back to add confusion. I want to post lists of suspects. She rejects the idea and switches hard on to guardians.

It also makes sense that she turned down a shield at night in exchange for town cred (though she was under the threat of being lynched) because that shield doesn't really help a mafia member.

Are you ####ting me? WTF? I thought I would come back to have something happen?! And now we're back to square one? With two 5 year olds squabbling and two 6 year olds voting for each other.
Sigh.