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Old 12-03-2025, 12:28 PM   #14641
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The Stars also have Seguin, who is still a totally capable mid six centre.

The Stars could use an upgrade in their bottom 6 wingers, and Coleman makes sense.
The discussion started because Seguin is out long term.
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Old 12-03-2025, 12:30 PM   #14642
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Kadri might be overkill for replacing a guy like Seguin? Schenn might be the better fit?

Was Seguin their 3C or 4C?
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Old 12-03-2025, 12:32 PM   #14643
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The discussion started because Seguin is out long term.
I didn't even realize that his injury had been declared that seriouis. Reports are that he could be back for the playoffs though.
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Old 12-03-2025, 12:32 PM   #14644
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I am surprised by the lack of trades league wide thus far. I know there's typically little to no moves made prior to xmas most seasons, but with the East being so tight and so many teams facing lots of injuries you'd think there'd be teams in their contention window looking to reinforce.
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Old 12-03-2025, 12:33 PM   #14645
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Wyatt Johnston + 2027 1st for Kadri + Coleman.
Dallas wouldn't trade Wyatt for Kadri, Coleman and Calgary's 1st pick in 2026.
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Old 12-03-2025, 12:33 PM   #14646
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Trade them Coleman. Who was drafted as a C and played that position in NJ.
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Old 12-03-2025, 12:38 PM   #14647
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I am surprised by the lack of trades league wide thus far. I know there's typically little to no moves made prior to xmas most seasons, but with the East being so tight and so many teams facing lots of injuries you'd think there'd be teams in their contention window looking to reinforce.
The tighter the standings, the less teams are willing to move assets. For example the Hawks are tied for the last Wild Card spot right now. The optics would be terrible for them to move a roster player for future assets at this time. If they fade in 2026 then that's when they will consider moving a player or two.
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Old 12-03-2025, 12:41 PM   #14648
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Seguin wasn't playing only at center. The Stars have several players who can play that position, especially being a 3C. Both sides of defense are also a mess.

Coleman and Bean for Bourque and call it a day.
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Old 12-03-2025, 12:41 PM   #14649
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Of the three most desirable Flames assets, I can easily see the Flames moving Andersson and Coleman but hanging on to Kadri.

Andersson is obviously gone given his contract status and likely fetches a 1st plus a B-grade prospect (maybe more if he continues his strong play) unless he agrees to an extension. I think Andersson is set on testing free agency, so a better deal for the Flames is unlikely.

Coleman is the player I can see most contenders trading for - he's a highly effective middle-6 winger with a proven playoff pedigree that would make pretty much any contender better. He's also cheap and, with only one additional year left, a player the Flames could safely retain on to improve the return. I could see him fetching a 1st, or maybe a 2nd and an A- prospect. The Flames also have plenty of winger depth and promising prospects so trading him 'helps' the Flames by easing up the winger logjam.

Kadri is the really interesting one for me. I think the Flames are reluctant to trade him because they don't want to throw any of our young centre prospects (e.g. Reschney) to the wolves as they break into the league. Playing young centres too high in the lineup before they're ready has been shown to hinder their development and prevent them from reaching their potential. Without Kadri, you'd have Backlund and Frost as your top-2 centres, which is far from ideal. That said, given the dearth of centres on the market, some team may make the Flames an offer they can't refuse but I don't think that's likely since Kadri has so much term remaining. The term is why I can't see the Flames retaining, which makes a blockbuster deal even more unlikely in my opinion but you never know if some GM wants to roll the dice.

If the Flames can exit this season with 2 extra firsts and two B-grade prospects I'll be happy. That would give us 6 first round picks over the next three drafts, in addition to the 4 first round picks in the last two drafts, which is a great base to build from and also creates flexibility by spreading out a future core's development and contract extensions over multiple season.
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Old 12-03-2025, 12:42 PM   #14650
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I am pretty sure when their team is healthy Seguin has played a lot on the wing in recent years with Hintz, Johnston and Duchene at center, with Benn also being able to play it. Coleman makes A LOT of sense for Dallas, he did before the injury and he does moreso now.
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Old 12-03-2025, 12:48 PM   #14651
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Yeah Seguin usually plays the wing, lately on a line with Hintz and Robertson, with Seguin and Hintz taking draws on their strong sides.
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Old 12-03-2025, 12:55 PM   #14652
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With Johnston and Hintz they don't need to pay the premium for Kadri to be 3C.

It's actually a place where if they ever decided to move Backlund where he'd be a good fit. Or somebody more like Schenn who probably costs less and can also shift to wing easier if needed.

It won't happen but I wonder what a team would pay for a combo of Backlund and Coleman. Just parachute in one of the best defensive 3rd lines in the whole NHL.
Backlund isn't going anywhere. If we want a comparable to Backlund's defense (and maybe one with better offense), I'd say LA with Kopitar, WPG with Toews, or Carolina with Staal are just a few examples off the top of my head that Coleman would thrive with. Cirelli with TB or Hischier with NJ are also other ones. Don't think we have to combine Backlund who likely retires a Flame. Better to get Coleman retained at 50% since we can take on the extra 2.45m for only one more year after this.
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Old 12-03-2025, 01:42 PM   #14653
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Dallas wouldn't trade Wyatt for Kadri, Coleman and Calgary's 1st pick in 2026.
I bet they would
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Old 12-03-2025, 01:45 PM   #14654
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I bet they would
I wouldn't. 22 year old sure thing vs. magic beans. Johnston could be good enough to push Calgary out of a top 5 draft pick.
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I wouldn't. 22 year old sure thing vs. magic beans. Johnston could be good enough to push Calgary out of a top 5 draft pick.
after losing Kadri and Coleman? come on now
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Old 12-03-2025, 02:05 PM   #14656
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I bet they would
Why would Dallas do it? Give up on this season for a player who might not be ready for a few years.

Johnston is that good. Likely better than anyone Calgary will draft.
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Old 12-03-2025, 02:14 PM   #14657
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Why would Dallas do it? Give up on this season for a player who might not be ready for a few years.

Johnston is that good. Likely better than anyone Calgary will draft.
Neither team does it.

A top 3 pick is not ready in a few years they are playing next year and likely a star player in 3 years. Johnston does not pull the flames out of the basement if they are also losing Kadri/Coleman.

The trade will NEVER happen so we should waste more posts on it but completely disagree with your take on it
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I bet they would
Only after the Flames won the lottery

And they still have a hard time doing it unless McKenna turned his season around
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Old 12-03-2025, 02:19 PM   #14659
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You might want to look up Johnstons stats. He is 22 and has had 2 30 goal seasons already and is on pace to smash that and over a point per game.

No way they move him for 2 guys in their mid 30’s
I beg to differ. Johnston has had seasons of 32 + 33 goals. 32 + 33 = 65. Kadri is 35, and Coleman is 34. 35 + 34 = 69. 69 > 65.

The math works.
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I am pretty sure the Johnston and a 1st for Kadri and Coleman must have been a sarcastic proposal.

Tough break for Seguin though. From his interview last week, it sounds like he almost packed it in after his hip issues. Severe ACL damage isn't easy to come back from to 100% for a player in their 30s.
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